Even our content creators cannot pretend to like the trashy writings of Dawntrail.

[CNitsah]

streamers and creators opinions don't matter to me, its one person like all of us. i liked all of DT and the side stuff, i liked being a side character in another's story of succession. not sarcastic i genuinely liked it. if these people influence your ideas or your looking for confirmation by cherry picking clips you don't think for yourself. this is just bait like most posts on NA forums.

It's not about being confirmed, it's about them having more of a voice than us, so yeah, we're kinda glad some people that can reach farther than us share our opinion.

[Ramiee]

Neat I guess.

People really get too emotionally attached to this game on both sides. Remember you aren't actually the WoL, all these people aren't real, being critical of a game you like or praising a game you don't like isn't a personal attack. Please for the love of god stop doing this, no wonder people looks at FFXIV players a cringe so often.

[ZavosEsperian]

It's not about being confirmed, it's about them having more of a voice than us, so yeah, we're kinda glad some people that can reach farther than us share our opinion.

This is the point of this thread really. I think it is good for others who have larger audiences and have the reach to voice opinions in common to people who should hear it. A lot of them end up being invited to events and can directly interact with people, including Yoshida who has used critique from streamers and youtubers to improve/change the game.

I generally don't pay that much attention to them in any other capacitance. I will admit it is cathartic to hear someone like that share your opinions and many people do like this feeling outside of myself and the most I interact with their media would be listening to streams at work.

[Malia_Chan]

I'm not. I'm just saying that I personally don't consider Zepla a person worth listening to because of her past actions. My focus was more on J. K. Rowling than on Zepla, and you'd know that if you had read through my posts.

I wouldn't call the "Have they played that Wizard Game" site a coordinated harrassment campaign, though I can absolutely see how those sites inevitably turn into fuel for that. I'm personally of the opinion that the site should never have existed - no matter how well intentioned the site may have been. People are always gonna go vigilante on it, hence why the site got shut down after 2 days. Same can be said about LoTT, the difference being that they haven't stopped. And since someone else brought up the VTuber community, neither did they. They responded back doing the exact same, but going against anyone that dared be even slightly pro-trans (even if they condemned the harassment), and last I checked, that document was still online. Granted that's been a while.

Wtf are you talking about? Past actions? So she played the Harry Potter game? So what. Are you going to lable everyone that plays, reads or watched something you don't like an IST or something? That's stupid and shallow.

[Stanelis]

This is the point of this thread really. I think it is good for others who have larger audiences and have the reach to voice opinions in common to people who should hear it. A lot of them end up being invited to events and can directly interact with people, including Yoshida who has used critique from streamers and youtubers to improve/change the game.

Don't worry, Yoshi-P is well aware of feedback provided on the forums.

[Ruris]

I watched a bit of Zepla yesterday. Zepla was never one I could adapt to the vibes, there was nothing significant I took issue with her, but just something off. Just human things in general.

Either way I put on her latest MSQ vod on twitch needing to something to watch while eating and watching her utter exasperation and tiredness at what the MSQ was asking and pointing her to do, was ridiculously relatable. I found myself nodding while rewatching some stuff. Important to note that Zepla isn't rushing at all, that's an incredibly relaxed pace she is playing the MSQ so speed and momentum arguments The Dawntrail Defenders use over burnout just do not hold up. I'll be watching more of her Dawntrail stuff at least, when you are a solo player in XIV, watching a creator on the side with the same opinion, helps.

[IvoryHawk]

My focus was more on J. K. Rowling than on Zepla

Oh! what's J. K. Rowlings Twitch stream again? i'd love to see what she thinks about Dawntrails since apparently now we're talking about content creators that have issues with the game we're all playing.

[Malthir]

I'm not. I'm just saying that I personally don't consider Zepla a person worth listening to because of her past actions. My focus was more on J. K. Rowling than on Zepla, and you'd know that if you had read through my posts.

I wouldn't call the "Have they played that Wizard Game" site a coordinated harrassment campaign, though I can absolutely see how those sites inevitably turn into fuel for that. I'm personally of the opinion that the site should never have existed - no matter how well intentioned the site may have been. People are always gonna go vigilante on it, hence why the site got shut down after 2 days. Same can be said about LoTT, the difference being that they haven't stopped. And since someone else brought up the VTuber community, neither did they. They responded back doing the exact same, but going against anyone that dared be even slightly pro-trans (even if they condemned the harassment), and last I checked, that document was still online. Granted that's been a while.

I do love the lefties, they are so funny at times.

They hate religions and yet don't seem to realise that they have founded a new age religion, and are behaving the same as all religions of the past. Apostasy and heresy burn the none believes :'D

[Tullius]

I do love the lefties, they are so funny at times.

They hate religions and yet don't seem to realise that they have founded a new age religion, and are behaving the same as all religions of the past. Apostasy and heresy burn the none believes :'D

What makes it even funnier is that Zepla is an I Support Current Thing™️ drone like them, albeit apparently a patch behind, yet still gets thrown under the bus. They have no loyalty to each other.

[Astronema]

zepla just wanted a taco but got endless suffering...