Time to remove Leve Allowances??

[Swad]

Bots are unreasonably strong in this game, they would flood the market with infinite gil after no time. Only reason the bot makers refuse to push more powerful crafting and auction house flipping tools is they would draw to much attention to bot and plugin creators and get them cease and desisted.

[Venarius]

Look, bud. I get that you feel like "We did it uphill, both ways, in snow AND sand storms!" is a valid reason for someone to have to do the same, but as someone who has been there since 2.0 as well, we're level 100 now, with over 30 Jobs across combat and non-combat. Let the people have easier ways to level, so they can actually catch up to us without having to pay for a level skip.

First, you have the easy mode since Shadowbringers. It is called Firmament. Second, leves reward money and thus need a limit. Collectables used to reward money and are unlimited, it doesn't get easier than this. Lastly, no one - absolutely no one, uses leves to level DoW/M. The equivalent is FATE. Besides there's no level skip for DoH/L, thankfully.

Nice straw man though.

[Lyndina]

Nobody hinders you from leveling the old ways.

[Isala]

First, you have the easy mode since Shadowbringers. It is called Firmament. Second, leves reward money and thus need a limit. Collectables used to reward money and are unlimited, it doesn't get easier than this. Lastly, no one - absolutely no one, uses leves to level DoW/M. The equivalent is FATE. Besides there's no level skip for DoH/L, thankfully.

Nice straw man though.

There ARE no DoW/DoM Leves past a certain level, so I don't know what you're even talking about here.

And oh no, the pocket change for Leves. Not like you can literally take a handful of maps and make millions upon millions of gil just through the gil drops, let alone the multimillion gil items you can sell to other players. But nope. Those pesky Leves might give you enough to teleport a few times. Can't have that. Seriously. Have you looked at the reward for this crap? Even the large scale leves give you 5k. You're really worried that people can get multiple 5ks, when teleports are costing us 2k a pop?

[fulminating]

Have you looked at the reward for this crap? Even the large scale leves give you 5k. You're really worried that people can get multiple 5ks, when teleports are costing us 2k a pop?

~10k unless for some reason you are turning in nq. This is about 1m for dumping 100 leves. I would like it if the 12 hourly allowance was bumped up to 8 from 6, but I think it would start getting very silly very fast if it was raised much higher than that.

[ShariusTC]

There ARE no DoW/DoM Leves past a certain level, so I don't know what you're even talking about here.

And oh no, the pocket change for Leves. Not like you can literally take a handful of maps and make millions upon millions of gil just through the gil drops, let alone the multimillion gil items you can sell to other players. But nope. Those pesky Leves might give you enough to teleport a few times. Can't have that. Seriously. Have you looked at the reward for this crap? Even the large scale leves give you 5k. You're really worried that people can get multiple 5ks, when teleports are costing us 2k a pop?

casual player can easy make 8 characters per server no extra cost, it's easy to speedrun 1 new account through msq, level up CUL and ALC (since both usually has easiest leve quest) leave them there to generate allowce, need about 16 days to get full 100 allowce, you can do it 2 per month, double gil reward if you bother with HQ turn in, so it will be 8 - 16 million gil generate per account per month

when game in down time between patch i can make 1 gil generate character in few day, still has some day to spare from 12.5 days limit of spout account, hell i can even max island with my alts so i can do felitious every week for a chance of 3 milion mount

now let remove that 100 allowces limit and let bot farming it non-stop, MB would be fun, you see how many gil you get from 1 leve, but you never count how much that add up over years, and don't worry about teleport cost, i never pay more than 100 gils for teleport for years

it's passive gaining, you hardly need to work for it if you are smart with retainer, 8 characters 16 retainers, can gather whatever you need while waiting, you still has time to do whatever you do ingame, sell whatever multi million gil you get, same as GC subs, take alot of time to make 4 subs and it get you about 7-8 millions per month, but people still do it anyway

[Kaldaka]

I believe they may have kept the leve allowance to prevent gil grinding. 100 leves = 1million gil for almost no work at all (especially if you can buy the item(s) for dirt cheap on the board.
It might seem like an inconvenience, but there's a lot of players who are time limited, and 60k a day for handing in X item is pretty nice imo.

[Kaurhz]

I think leves needs reworking, and then uncapping from there.

If they are to uncap them though, then they would need to remove Gil as a reward and nerf the experience gain dramatically.

[ShariusTC]

I think leves needs reworking, and then uncapping from there.

If they are to uncap them though, then they would need to remove Gil as a reward and nerf the experience gain dramatically.

You literally ask for remove it since collectibles not only give you xp but script, if leve give no gil and has xp nerfed, it's instantly turn in to trash that wait for remove later

[Kaurhz]

You literally ask for remove it since collectibles not only give you xp but script, if leve give no gil and has xp nerfed, it's instantly turn in to trash that wait for remove later

Like I said, it needs reworking, and my main reason for the removal of Gil from leves is because it would be inevitable from their side. Uncapped with Gil rewards it would turn into a very easy and ridiculous Gil printing machine. They did the same with collectables, they'd do the exact same for levequests.