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    The OP is completely incorrect and is getting baited by incorrect tooltips. Just test the damage yourself on a striking dummy and you will see that F3p in AF1 does double the damage of F3p in UI3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realfoxy View Post
    The OP is completely incorrect and is getting baited by incorrect tooltips. Just test the damage yourself on a striking dummy and you will see that F3p in AF1 does double the damage of F3p in UI3.
    It's actually the opposite of what he's saying, the relative gain of the AF1 Firestarter is greater now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    It's actually the opposite of what he's saying, the relative gain of the AF1 Firestarter is greater now.
    What makes it greater? Is it just that fewer total non-F4/Despair/Flare Star GCDs means a higher over-the-fight density of hard-hitting spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrinus View Post
    What makes it greater? Is it just that fewer total non-F4/Despair/Flare Star GCDs means a higher over-the-fight density of hard-hitting spells?
    Basically, yea. Using it in AF also delays your next Despair/Flare Star (the latter is a big deal). Strictly speaking, if it doesn't cost a cast over the encounter, the math gets muddier (though Tpose into AF1 Firestarter still wins).
    It's like how using Holy in White in Picto is a damage loss in a dummy because it delays your next subtractive combo (so, your nuke combo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrinus View Post
    What makes it greater? Is it just that fewer total non-F4/Despair/Flare Star GCDs means a higher over-the-fight density of hard-hitting spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Galvuu View Post
    Basically, yea. Using it in AF also delays your next Despair/Flare Star (the latter is a big deal). Strictly speaking, if it doesn't cost a cast over the encounter, the math gets muddier (though Tpose into AF1 Firestarter still wins).
    It's like how using Holy in White in Picto is a damage loss in a dummy because it delays your next subtractive combo (so, your nuke combo).
    They also just increased the base potency of F3, which simply makes the potency gain of putting it in AF1 over UI3 larger.
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