SCH what do you think of it?

[Nero-Voidstails]

so would be fair to start with me isn't haha second time I make a forum and English is slightly better sorta maybe no idea you all to judge.


I have completed dawntrail with sch and we'll I actually love it but I have always prefer sch because it feel well right for me compared to sage I am not saying sage is a bad job not at all.


I do think tho that the first problem I have encounter with SCH is still how resource heavy it is and only have to way to Regen mp and it's even more heavy with seraphism on.

I would like to see exemple the fairy skill to Regen some mp or make a use of adlo free or recitation free still have a slight problem with seraph but I have started using her in pulls not the best still but does somewhat of a job done.


Overall my experience of SCH while doing dawntrail is actually pretty good other then the MP Regen that is a bit struggling at some point but never a big issues just if you have to revive alots of people or one back to back it's where the problem start.

Fairy skill could be surely better but I have seen way worst I do say maybe making fey union as a stronger buff on the fairy for a time instead of Regen but maybe upgrading the healing the fairy does could be better(damage is higher so I think the Regen is slow as hell).


That's pretty much conclude it I do think SCH have been greatly improved and I love playing it so much I made it my main healer haha!


Thanks you for reading!

[Iedarus]

Scholar's healing capabilities and mp management are in a very good spot. I'd just like to see the job's DoT gameplay back and I'd also like to see Selene make a return.

Edit: I'd also like to add on the odd fact that no one is talking about the absolute MONSTER that is the 60 Recitation cooldown. That cooldown, alone, renders Seraphism superfluous, and the latter completely defeats the purpose of Emergency Tactics when you can just spam it.

[ToodlesElNoodles]

Baneful Impaction being decoupled from Chain Stratagem and shortened to 1 min would be somewhat of an improvement.

[Zolvolt]

Scholar has always had an incredibly strong toolkit that is fun to use and that doesn't change in dawntrail. Seraphism's inclusion gives scholar a power so great that I can't help but expect it to be nerfed. If you want to solo heal content scholar is a really good choice.

Baneful impact being a DoT also changes how you think about it's use compared to other healer follow-up spells. Moving it around in my burst when a boss is on the verge of the death is very different than how I think about using oracle on astrologian for example.

[Connor]

Scholar was my first job levelled to 100 and I did the whole msq on it.

It’s basically most fun when I pretend I’m a support class and not a dps with one button and 100 oGCD heals lol. Protraction is a valuable and versatile buff in my head canon. Casting Concitation is party support. Sometimes I use Fey Illumination just to buff the party’s magic defense lol. Excogitation is totally a buff and not healing. Sometimes when I’m bored I use Repose to interrupt certain enemy aoes like the giant turtle at the end of Origenics

Baneful Impaction is cool but might as well not even exist outside of raids because of the massive 120 second cool-down. On a damage-over-time ability!

Seraphism looks terrible glamours-wise but it’s hilariously overpowered lol. Tanks your MP which is fun lol, sometimes I get overzealous with it because I like the spell animation for Manifestation and Accession

Doesn’t really change the fact 90% of my casts are still Broil IV, but at least it’s fun to pretend lol

[Kalinas]

I mean, scholar is mostly the same. It plays fine generally. I always go through MSQ with it. If I were to be nitpicky though...

I do like the new powered up Concitation animation and think Ruin II could use a change at this point like that, just a small power bump and new animation. Energy Drain as well...I mean it could become something like Osmose and be AoE or just given bit more power or go back to giving MP since Seraphism can drain your mana quickly if you're not watching it. I would love for Bane to come back so I can spread my one dot easier. I also miss the aetherflow cooldown reduction trait.

Expedient is still a solid ability. Recitation and Deployment getting their cooldowns lowered was nice.

Having Baneful Impaction as a second dot that's AoE is cool, but I wish it wasn't locked behind Chain Strategem. I don't really understand why the devs had to do that.

Seraphism is really powerful...absurdly so in fact. I think the biggest draw back to using it is the cosmetic change (and mp drain if you over do things in it).

The initial animation of Seraphism is pretty, but then it turns me into a dollar store Christmas tree topper for 20 seconds. Being put into an ugly white robe and a white-thorny headdress that covers my face is already bad enough, but devs also prune my WoL's tail and ears when I use it. You can't even tell it's my WoL unless you get super close while in that form. Plus I go out of my way to choose glams that don't cover my feet and being in a white dress ruins that. I also don't like moving away from the tactician/military/academic image that it seems to be doing with this move.

I miss Selene and Eos being their own different aspects of the fairy with different abilities instead of just a cosmetic choice. Really if the ghosting during animations wasn't so bad, I'd say make Fey Illumination bring out Selene and Whispering Dawn bring out Eos to make it seem like the faeries matter a little more.

Faerie is still ghosting spells if you hit them to quickly when it swaps between Eos/Seraph. I still say that the Seraph versions of the Fey abilities should be a little stronger than the initial version of them or at least have a longer duration. Though I suppose we should be glad that devs didn't lock scholar out of those skills when Seraph is out like they did with Fey Blessing.

Job gauge is pretty barebones still since is only used for Fey Union/Aetherpact and Seraph countdown when she's out.

Maybe if Fey Blessing (or something like that sounds similar) could be used to augment other scholar spells by drawing power from faerie gauge for a 20 cost from the gauge total (maybe like a paid version of what Eukrasia does for some of the sage spells I guess). Turn Biolysis or Art of War into an AoE dot with it. Make Energy Drain an AoE that also drains MP like Osmose does in other FFs. Use it to boost the power of a Lustrate/Idom/Excog charge since Fey Illumination and Dissipation only boost healing magic and not healing abilities. Turn Adlo/Concitation casts into instant casts for 50.

I dunno...just my 1am ramblings after playing around with my scholar at level 100 so far.

[Supersnow845]

One thing I do like about seraphism is it soft conflicts with recitation because you can’t recite manifestation or accession (I don’t know if this is an oversight)

I like they are doubling down on SCH’s kit being about conflict of choice even though I think modern healers are as a whole garbage

[Emitans]

SCH feels basically the same other than a 2 minute button and WHM mode. So it's still my favorite healer but a shadow of what it used to be.

EDIT: The new Succor successor's animation is really cool at least. I love watching the lines rain down on my party members and shielding them.

[dvoraen]

Baneful Impaction being decoupled from Chain Stratagem and shortened to 1 min would be somewhat of an improvement.

Yes this. They could even make it so that Chain "buffs" Baneful if they want to keep the association between them that badly. Like making Baneful "deploy" Chain if you use it as a combo action after Chain, and/or have higher potency if used after. I'm just spouting random ideas here.