FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

[ninjaminja]

I wonder how close we are to the point of no return in that trust thermocline since there are already some warning signs.
DT seems to be the lowest rated XIV product since 1.0, the job reception so far is mixed to negative, the promises haven't been met so far, msq is divisive at best, contand negativity towards the game is more common than it has been in the last years

The game is doing fine . Many people are still playing and enjoying it

[Supersnow845]

The game is doing fine . Many people are still playing and enjoying it

Any game is “doing fine” until they hit their limit and half the population leaves

[PercibelTheren]

The game is doing fine . Many people are still playing and enjoying it

I think you, like many people, misunderstand the purpose of negative feedback on these forums. The vast majority of people criticising the game don't hate the game as a whole. If we did, we wouldn't be around anymore, right? People point out things that can be improved BECAUSE WE LIKE THE GAME but we want it to be the best possible version of itself. I'm still playing and (mostly) enjoying the game. The saving grace of Dawntrail has been the battle content for me, by far. But you know what would make me enjoy the game even more? The MSQ not being garbage and jobs I used to main being fun again.

[lolnotacat]

The game is doing fine . Many people are still playing and enjoying it

I don't think you understand what the Trust Thermocline WaxSw mentioned is about. It's actually an interesting theory, one which I believe is generally correct. The tl;dr, because I doubt you'll actually look it up is that things are "doing fine" until they're not. Exoduses from games, platforms, or other services are generally slow at first, then all of a sudden they turn quick and brutal. Look at mySpace, WoW during Shadowlands, Helldivers 2, Mobile Strike, etc... These were all doing fine, until they weren't. Generally from a combination of their own ineptitude and a better product coming along. Yes, XIV is "doing fine" and probably will for a while, but all that's really needed are a couple more patches (maybe another expansion) which are mediocre, along with a viable competitor being released at the right time to irreparably damage the game.

[Palladiamors]

Because peoples don't stop playing MMORPG on a whim (for most).

It's a long process, but once it's started, 9 times out of 10 it's unstoppable. Dawntrail isn't close to being what could cause this for now but ignoring complaint could lead to that if the story remain divisive.

The problem, Do'Urden, is that Dawntrail has put the game on shakey ground. At any point in time the wrong decision could cause the entire thing to come down. Before Dawntrail this wasn't the case, they could afford mistakes and the player base would shake them off. I get the feeling they thought the graphic update would garner them more good will than it actually did.

Most likely you're right and they still have a couple mid to meh expansions before the riots start but the sort of ill will they starting to foster could cause one bad expansion to be the breaking point. Hopefully they realize this and course correct but...this being modern day Squenix I sort of doubt it.

[Swordsman]

Not sure what happened but the Metacritic User Score plummeted to 5.2 following a wave of deleted user ratings. Over 200 user ratings were deleted.

[lolnotacat]

Not sure what happened but the Metacritic User Score plummeted to 5.2 following a wave of deleted user ratings. Over 200 user ratings were deleted.

I'm not one to trust anything from Metacritic in either direction, but something to keep in mind (that journalists don't want to talk about) is that review bombing goes both ways. Depending on the product, there will be corporate simps and paid shills that will influence votes. This is why I generally stick to sites where you can't leave a review unless you actually purchased the product. Those types of reviews can still be manipulated, but to less of a degree, and that manipulation will usually drop inversely with the price of the product.

[Awkward]

I'm not one to trust anything from Metacritic in either direction, but something to keep in mind (that journalists don't want to talk about) is that review bombing goes both ways. Depending on the product, there will be corporate simps and paid shills that will influence votes. This is why I generally stick to sites where you can't leave a review unless you actually purchased the product. Those types of reviews can still be manipulated, but to less of a degree, and that manipulation will usually drop inversely with the price of the product.

I think it was just reddit and twitter countering what they perceived as review bombing funny enough even though perception for the expansion overall is more in line with the 5.2 score now that the dust has settled.

[Alchemii]

Not sure what happened but the Metacritic User Score plummeted to 5.2 following a wave of deleted user ratings. Over 200 user ratings were deleted.

Those were probably people doing an actual review bomb, 5.2 sounds a lot more in line with what we're seeing Steam.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Not sure what happened but the Metacritic User Score plummeted to 5.2 following a wave of deleted user ratings. Over 200 user ratings were deleted.

Probably removed some 10s that didn't actually review the expansion that were there just to artificially boost the score to "own the gamers".