Dawntrail's Final Zones destroy everything the story has built.

[Aulainn]

You cant kill something that isnt alive.

They were the memories of the dead saved in a computer program. They killed other people to fuel their afterlife.

By your logic we should have let the Nazi's continue with their concentration camps to fuel their war machine.

This thread is ridiculous and an obvious troll job.

We had no problem bringing back a dead man who was our friend and transferring their memory into another body. All I ask is for the story to acknowledge the discrepancy in any way.

[Gortys]

That wasn't my point. My point is she is harvesting souls. My other point is she only cares about some of them. She knows that her decisions will make it impossible for some people to gain more souls and her answer is "git gud". Because of this I don't view her as caring about her people much and really just caring about her mission.

[MikkoAkure]

We had no problem bringing back a dead man who was our friend and transferring their memory into another body. All I ask is for the story to acknowledge the discrepancy in any way.

I wouldn't say its the same because it was a one-off thing where we transferred the soul of someone from the future back into to his own past self that froze himself in time in the exact same manner we restored the consciousnesses of the rest of the Scions who were in a coma. His existence is also self-sustaining since he's a normal person who requires normal food and without Crystal Tower corruption/interference will later die a natural death.

The Alexandrians in contrast decided to completely deny the normal process of life and death for an entire civilization by preventing souls from reaching the Lifestream and mechanically extracting memory from the soul to shove into a computer until the computer randomly decided they get to walk around Living Memory and then it stitches their memory aether to someone else's soul. It also required plundering the souls of other people against their will to perpetuate it. We could have found another power source but I personally find the entire idea utterly vile and in the meantime the residents would fade and warp the entire area like what happened to the Deadwalk.

[Ayer2015]

Honestly, I'm just putting DT's msq out of mind at this point. Hopefully things improve going forward.

[Turtledeluxe]

As other have stated, they are still allowing Solution 9 and HF to continue repurposing the souls of others and, according to Sphene, these are her people too.

What Sphene was doing (and her people) was no different than what Meteion did in EW. She has stated she wants to harvest souls and that is her purpose. And that one guy who lost his job because of her? She tells him "QQ more" and to pull himself up by his boot straps LOL. She just cares so much about her people, right? But again, the reality is the only reason they are letting S9 and HF continue is to introduce Beastmaster. I'm sure of it since they felt the need to demonstrate the use of beast souls to fight. Our characters say we don't think this is right, but then at the end it's allowed to continue? It's so disappointing that they did this story and allowed these people to continue just to introduce another meme job. Since I know it's not deeper than that to the writers, I can't take it seriously at all.

Um....yes. Yes it is.

[Yurhee]

Hmm absolutely not. That said the writing was mediocre in some parts and I definitely got stuff putting me off, like to me Namikka shouldn't have aged because when the region she was in got fused under the dome, there was already the door built by Zoraal Ja synchronizing the flow of time between the two worlds.

And much like every expacs you get posts on these forums, people saying how for them the new MSQ doesn't exist etc...
I just think that a good chunk people gathering here are not happy with ig stuffs (100% fair) but then they feed one another their confirmation bias and end up thinking that their view is shared by most of the community lol.

[Mikey_R]

My other point is she only cares about some of them.

She cares about preserving everyone, this is the whole point of her character. However, she doesn't care whether you are residing in Heritage Found Solution Nine or Living memory. It appears she doesn't care because she doesn't view his loss of souls a bad thing, he just moves somewhere else, so why does it matter?

It only appears she doesn't care because her reasoning doesn't match ours.

[CidHeiral]

I really liked the creative choice to leave the zone dead. The point of the story was letting go, which seems to have gone over a lot of people's heads.

This level of genocide is simply disgusting. And why? Because 2 or 3 Endless wanted to die? Setting aside the moral debate of assisted euthanasia, the vast majority of Endless never agreed to this, or even knew it was happening.

Well they can't be euthanized because they're already dead. The Endless are AI constructs created from memories. They are computer data and nothing more. Wiping those terminals is closer to deleting an Excel spreadsheet than "genocide."

Why didn't we simply let the Endless live and die of "old age", when their aether ran out?????

Because Sphene's prime directive was to keep her fake AI people sustained with souls at any cost. She was going to consume every reflection of actual living people until they were all wiped out.

[CerusSerenade]

Sphene wanted to devour entire worlds to sustain her people for as long as possible.

We wanted to stop Sphene.

The only way to stop Sphene was to shut off the Meso Terminal.

Shutting off the Meso Terminal also kills all the Endless.

That's why we don't let the Endless live and die of old age.

Not that complex for people who were paying attention.

[Turtledeluxe]

I really liked the creative choice to leave the zone dead. The point of the story was letting go, which seems to have gone over a lot of people's heads.




Well they can't be euthanized because they're already dead. The Endless are AI constructs created from memories. They are computer data and nothing more. Wiping those terminals is closer to deleting an Excel spreadsheet than "genocide."



Because Sphene's prime directive was to keep her fake AI people sustained with souls at any cost. She was going to consume every reflection of actual living people until they were all wiped out.

There's a portion of the fanbase absolutely obsessed with the term genocide and using it to trigger people /deface the term.

It's better to ignore them.