Dawntrail's Final Zones destroy everything the story has built.

[Mikey_R]

I do think it's too late to try something like this because it goes strongly against the theme of letting things go. It's possible that we will end up giving them "a new dawn" by helping them be reborn in the source (grab the memories, give them new actual bodies using Garlean cloning or something like that, so they can have one honest shot at an actual life), but since the game was stating that we were erasing them... I doubt it.

Define 'actual' life? Why is it fair for those who happened to be stuck in Living memory to be given a second shot at life, but people on the source aren't? You are better off just leaving them alone at this point because, as you said, the whole point of the expansion is about letting go.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

It's definitely a failure of writing that there's so much confusion around Living Memory because they relied way too much on telling you how to feel.

It's established multiple time that people are brought back in their "ideal" state and set up to find a closure of sorts, the man with the wedding ring could've been used to establish that it's artificial and staged. (which I think is what they were going for)

We could have met him on the outside in a similar state to how we found him, looking for his ring. After helping him he actually proposes and gets rejected so the system saves "pre-proposing" as the happiest state. Later in LM we find him once again trying to propose but this time he actually succeeds as the system seeks to create happiness, showing how artificial it all is and the manipulation of Endless memories.

Also someone could just straight up state if they have souls or merely consume them, no soul = not alive.

[Kaecilius]

Define 'actual' life? Why is it fair for those who happened to be stuck in Living memory to be given a second shot at life, but people on the source aren't? You are better off just leaving them alone at this point because, as you said, the whole point of the expansion is about letting go.

Is it fair that we gave the Crystal Exarch a second shot at life by overwriting the memories of his past self, despite him being basically a refugee from a dead timeline? We save the ones we can.

As you say, it's probably better to just leave them alone and move forward from this entire thing at this point but the choices made, and the reactions of the characters left a bitter taste for a lot of us. It may have just been muddled writing, where what they say doesn't seem to match what we see.

[ksuyen]

I think people are just overthinking and too sensitive. I totally enjoy the final part of the MSQ about soul and AI.

[Mikey_R]

Is it fair that we gave the Crystal Exarch a second shot at life by overwriting the memories of his past self, ...

Just want to point out we never overwrite G'Raha Tia's memories, just add onto them.

[Kaecilius]

Just want to point out we never overwrite G'Raha Tia's memories, just add onto them.

We force a hundred of years of trauma into a younger G'raha that would not have undergone said trauma because the Eight Umbral Calamity didn't happen in our timeline.

[Mikey_R]

We force a hundred of years of trauma into a younger G'raha that would not have undergone said trauma because the Eight Umbral Calamity didn't happen in our timeline.

Yes, but we didn't overwrite any memories doing it.

[Gortys]

We force a hundred of years of trauma into a younger G'raha that would not have undergone said trauma because the Eight Umbral Calamity didn't happen in our timeline.

This implies it was done against his wishes - it was not.

[Aurumis]

All of these people have previously died. They already lived full lives. There is literally no point in bringing them back "alive" or keeping them that way. The whole thing perverts the cycle of life, death, and rebirth by throwing the dead into a crumbling Disneyland full of fiends where they might get reembodied once every couple of decades or centuries.

Cacihua is not the only one who wants it to be done. Krile's parents do too, and all of the Endless NPCs in the sidequests know it's the end and they all accept it and one even shows disgust at the idea of maintaining his existence at the cost of living souls. Random non-quest NPCs you can talk to even mention the aether shortage and don't care whether or not Sphene's plan works. The whole place is stale and while the system tries to reembody those with connections after analyzing their memory data, there's only so much to do there with the infinite amount of time they have and one kid has seen that play already 70 times and just doesn't care anymore.

The only ones who can't accept this are Sphene and some players.

Agree. Some players seems to not understand the meaning of life and why these people had to be disconnected, apart than being just AIs. They all died of age, then became endless. like Namikka. It's like if we now die and our memories are used to make fake persons that aren't us no more and they want them to keep working using energy of souls of people that were alive and were killed to use as fuel without being able to be reborn at all. It's stupid why some players defend the Endless and call them innocents when they already used the souls of other people to life full lives until dying of age and then live even more. It's selfish and stupid, and people should understand that, even if the story has bad writting, this concept it's easy to understand: they were zombies killing people that could have children and their own lives and it was wrong for them to keep living sustained in this way or any other because we all must die someday and the cycle of the souls and the aetherial sea needs to continue.

[GrizzlyTank]

While people have brought up Emet.

It's not us that did what Emet did. It was Sphene effectively repeating what Emet wanted to do to us, but with a much worse and less sustainable result.