On the Removal of Positionals

[Ramiee]

While I generally like positionals, I think DRG MNK and RPR have legitimately terrible implementations of them. DRG and MNK positionals are just a task to check off a list. You can't really play around them or shift them around based on a mechanic, you simply have to do them when they pop up in the rotation. True North on those two jobs winds up feeling like a punishment. Oh, you're playing DRG and you have to hit a flank positional when the boss is cleaving his sides? Too bad! You have no way to delay that positional or work around it. Press True North, idiot. MNK is pretty similar.
RPR is on the opposite end of the spectrum where the positionals are so few and far between (and easy to move around) that it feels pointless to include them in the first place. I don't think anyone would even notice if positionals were removed from RPR.
The other three are fine though, I think.

Uhm MNK and SAM have the same system. Most of your damage comes from special moves tied to your filler inputs and under the buff to do your special moves you have free action choice. SAM has to do more positional then MNK in this and they unavoidable, it's way more prevalant on SAM then MNK. MNK probably is the only melee that you can avoid pressing positionals during their burst phases of you want, if any melee does positionals well as a mechanic it's MNK. What you described MNKs positionals as is literally what all melees that aren't MNK have positionals as.

[Router]

Uhm MNK and SAM have the same system. Most of your damage comes from special moves tied to your filler inputs and under the buff to do your special moves you have free action choice. SAM has to do more positional then MNK in this and they unavoidable, it's way more prevalant on SAM then MNK. MNK probably is the only melee that you can avoid pressing positionals during their burst phases of you want, if any melee does positionals well as a mechanic it's MNK. What you described MNKs positionals as is literally what all melees that aren't MNK have positionals as.

Forgive me, for I am not a MNK main, but is it not true that when you have an orb you need to spend that orb? It's not like you can stockpile additional orbs i.e. like with NIN kunai, and MNK certainly doesn't have the ability to occasionally delay or rearrange positional GCDs like SAM can in filler. It's a rigid 1-2-3. Of course MNK even minute burst is mostly just opo spam with few positionals, but that's hardly the entire job.

[Zarkovitch]

Nah, main tanks need to use true north.

[W00by]

Forgive me, for I am not a MNK main, but is it not true that when you have an orb you need to spend that orb? It's not like you can stockpile additional orbs i.e. like with NIN kunai, and MNK certainly doesn't have the ability to occasionally delay or rearrange positional GCDs like SAM can in filler. It's a rigid 1-2-3. Of course MNK even minute burst is mostly just opo spam with few positionals, but that's hardly the entire job.

Piggybacking off of you, NIN and RPR and VPR all don't really do positionals during their burst (optimally anyway). NIN is too busy with Mudras, Ten Chi Jin, and Raiju, I think they do, like, one Aeolian Edge at the very start (sometimes, depending on combo placement)? RPR is enshrouded the entire time, and double Enshroud pushes Gluttony out of Burst this expansion (and even if it didn't #literally just true north gluttony every time RPR doesn't have positionals I promise), and Viper aims to be double reawakened, which, again, helps them avoid positionals every time.

MNK is absolutely not the only melee that can avoid positionals during burst. On the contrary, most of the current job's burst phases seem explicitly built so you DON'T have to do positionals during burst, with MNK, DRG, and SAM being just a little more positional intensive. Still quite manageable though.

That said, I don't think jobs having different positional implementations is bad (spoiler if you haven't read my posts: I'm very pro positionals). All roles should have a spectrum of difficulty and positionals accomplish this nicely. Some have to do positionals a lot during filler, some have to do positionals during burst while others ignore it, and some have to do positionals all the time and require a little bit more careful planning and positioning. But we don't need every job to be the same! It's not a bad thing.

[Zerovii]

If I wanted to not deal with positionals and faceroll into a mob I'm barely looking at I'd go play wow. Let the game have some identity and build around it more than trying to tear down one of the things making it unique.