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    darkghost38's Avatar
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    Thunderstorm Dragon
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 94

    Stop it with the forced stealth

    I don't know if this has been already said before but stop it with the stealth already, it was bad in endwalker and is bad in Dawntrail, this is not a stealth game, nobody plays this game for the stealth and it doesn't matter how much you improve it is never going to be good, the quests are annoying and tedious. If you are going to keep those quests then stop forcing them on us in the MSQ and the aether current quests.
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    lolnotacat's Avatar
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I wouldn't mind it once or maybe twice an expansion. But almost every instance feels ham-fisted and like it's being used as padding.
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    My only gripe with the stealth sections is not being teleported to the start when you fail and having to make a long trek, especially since it's unclear how far back you can actually tail the character so they may turn around at the worst time
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Least it's some attempt at spicing up the quests.

    Still, more solo instances would have been better. Should have had one during the 96 cutscene, rather than having the cutscene where we just stand and stare.
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    They just need to add an option if want to skip them or do them. Just give an exp. bonus if you decide to do them.
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Least it's some attempt at spicing up the quests.

    Still, more solo instances would have been better. Should have had one during the 96 cutscene, rather than having the cutscene where we just stand and stare.
    Don't forget when we just take a step forward menacingly when the bad guys take a hostage for the 4987th time instead of ignoring cover/rescue/Bahamut conveniently located on our hotbar.

    But y'know, we can't have agency because it detracts from Wuk Lamat's screentime
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    Don't forget when we just take a step forward menacingly when the bad guys take a hostage for the 4987th time instead of ignoring cover/rescue/Bahamut conveniently located on our hotbar.

    But y'know, we can't have agency because it detracts from Wuk Lamat's screentime
    That part should have been a solo instance, or had us punch him like the other gecko did.
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    Vim Mercer
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    Alpha
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    TBH, I was yearning for more stealth instances, or even the damned Spyglass, in each of the 6 hours of semi-mandatory cutscenes between gameplay...
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    My only gripe with the stealth sections is not being teleported to the start when you fail and having to make a long trek, especially since it's unclear how far back you can actually tail the character so they may turn around at the worst time
    Or when you fail it and have to start over and then when you finally complete it in the cutscene after you just walk right up to the guy and he's like "Oh I just like to sneak around for fun, I'm not doing anything bad".
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    Last edited by Fawkes; 07-06-2024 at 07:15 PM.

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    Leirios Noesis
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    Phantom
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Agreed, it's always a relief to me on an Endwalker replay to be through with the last stealth sequence, like "That's done, now I can relax", and then Dawntrail brings them back. They were a little less finicky here, so that was nice, but I'd prefer just no mandatory stealth at all, as said above, keep them out of the MSQ and the quasi-mandatory aether current quests (because there's no way we'll just not care about flying).
    Stealth in games not built as stealth games basically never works. And for the few times it might be fun, maybe offer an optional stealth-based side quest. Like a Metal Gear Thancred quest line specifically for fun and for stealth enthusiasts without blocking main progression because you didn't stand behind the right tree again.
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