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    Or4ngeTicTac's Avatar
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    Ajani Goldmane
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    Famfrit
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    WORLD BOSS FATES >:(

    World boss fates are a bad system. I spent 15 hours trying to get the world boss fate to spawn only for it to die in 10 seconds and I'm unable to get a hit in on it. I feel cheated and used. The fact the system requires me to wait sooooo long do all this work to then have it die instantly. I hate it. The system is archaic and does account for the 200 people waiting in the instances for it to spawn. Its a system that doesn't reward actually doing anything beyond waiting.

    Idk maybe a better way of doing it, is if your in the instance on the map and it spawns and dies, everyone in the map gets the rewards. If people want to sit and wait at the boss cool. But dont punish the people that are in the map doing the fate chains to get it to spawn.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    We saw this same thing happen in Shadowbringers and Endwalker as some players rushed to get the new rewards as fast as possible before they needed to commit their time to raiding. Once Savage was released, the crowds started thinning out and were more patient.

    My suggestion is don't be in a rush to get the rewards. Let the impolite rush crowd get what they want so they won't be back. Things will be better in a month.
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    Praesul Presul
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    There's like 10+ servers you can check and 3 instances per map on each server, if you really want the items and achievements that badly you can easily knock it out in an afternoon, especially if you check player made trackers.
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    Cinnamon Whisky
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    To be fair in ShB and EW the arenas were big enough that the boss wasn't being instantly pulled on spawn, so people actually had time to world hop and get to the boss. Waiting till later when the crowd thins is an option, but also a risk, as not enough people means the FATE doesn't get cleared(First time I ever fought Formidable it timed out due to lack of people). But the bigger issue is just how unfun it is to be stuck sitting in a map for hours waiting hoping for it to spawn after each run of the FATE chain.
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    Last edited by SkankyRoe; 07-09-2024 at 06:48 AM.

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    Mother Vain
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    We do need a revamp on World Bosses, I agree.
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    What world boss dies in 10 seconds? FATEs scale you to their level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    What world boss dies in 10 seconds? FATEs scale you to their level.
    Scaling the individual player to the boss level doesn't make a difference if the FATE isn't scaling correctly to the number of player present.

    If it's designed expecting a turnout of maybe 40 players and 350 show up, what do you think the result would be? The result is the boss dying in 10-15 seconds. With the current number of players showing up, you can help spawn the FATE in the 4th zone and not make it to the FATE location in time to be part of the kill because it's being annihilated the moment it spawns. Everyone wants the mount and it takes at least 2 kills to get enough tokens. Players are zone camping hoping to see the FATE spawn.

    As I said before, this happens at the start of every expansion. Players who want the reward now zerg the boss. As players start getting their rewards, more stop attending than new attendees show up.

    The FATEs aren't going to be removed from the game. No one needs to fear missing out. Wait a few weeks and the number showing up will start thinning out and the bosses will last longer.
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    It's not like it won't spawn again.
    Just go next time, it'll be slightly less popular each time it spawns.
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    Thylein Ultran
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    It would help so much if it would not be rng based and instead a visible progress bar. Do the Fate-Chain, fill up the bar and once the bar is filled it will spawn. Giving players a bit more knowledge and not trying to FOMO players into standing at the boss arena because it could spawn.... but it might also not spawn for another 10 hours.
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    I too really dislike the world boss system, it is completly unclear when or how to spawn one of these bosses, so far i know they are part of a long fate chain, but their spawn cooldown is absurdly long, and also the fates are not shown on the map, so you dont even know when its there.
    I think i have killed the world bosses just enough times during the expansion to get all rewards, that means one kill in 6 months.
    They might spawn when i am at work, or sleeping, or just not logged in and then it is a week long cooldown to happen again.
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