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    I did the entire DT expansion with JP voices and while I was watching some streams with the EN variant I was shocked at how different it sounded, especially Erenville and Wuk Lamat.

    Frankly, I sway much more toward faulty directing than VA per se. It's their responsibility to make sure the scenes and the energy are matched and it sounded like it didn't. JP VA for Wuk Lamat was absolutely outstanding and the directing for everyone was just 10/10.
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    I thought the voice acting was pretty good by FFXIV standards. Wuk Lamat was kinda meh at some points, but I really enjoyed both of the two-headed Mamool Ja, Erenville's mom, and Koana. Sphene was good as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    I thought the voice acting was pretty good by FFXIV standards. Wuk Lamat was kinda meh at some points, but I really enjoyed both of the two-headed Mamool Ja, Erenville's mom, and Koana. Sphene was good as well.
    Also that one guy in the cowboy zone that sounded like Sam Elliott.
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    Sena's performance just sucks and judging by her tweets, she is incapable of taking criticism and blames her lack of roles on her being trans rather than due to her skill.
    I implore anyone who believes it's purely a voice direction issue to look at her previous work.
    I dunno how she managed to land the role of Wuk Lamat at all, but I doubt anything at all would ever be said or done about it
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    Y'all love dragging out that quote. Has nothing to do with the performance. She's no worse than the other terrible VA we have in this game, SE frankly just doesn't want to hire top talent. And I know they could afford it.

    Or maybe they are too hard to work with and folks like Jennifer Hale turn down the roles. Who knows. But the fixation on this particular actress's personal life and opinions is over the top. Let's discuss how bad this xpac OVERALL just is. Writing, direction, all of it, it's just bad, more of the same, treadmill, dull. There is nothing new or exciting and that just exacerbates everything else.

    I think that folks don't appreciate how difficult it can be to bring life to a character that is already written with a terrible identity. The traits the author intended to be endearing are instead obnoxious, they can't seem to decide on an accent for the folks in this region (or ANY region, for that matter), and the overall missing identity of the game in general all makes the VA feel worse than objectively it is. She's articulate, it's not nails on a chalkboard, we just have a real deep-seated problem with the way they constructed this xpac overall that I'm not sure even an actress like Jennifer Hale could have carried it. This is a HEAVY lift.

    Is Wuk Lamat's VA great? No, she didn't knock it out of the park. But neither is she as bad as some of you are intent on saying she is. A lot of it is direction - the slow, halting way most of the characters speak because that's how JP think Americans actually communicate is 100% direction. I end up skipping many cutscenes because I've read the text and the character hasn't gotten past the first half-sentence. No VA can overcome that and while maybe I'd let it play just to hear Keith David talk, it's just another reminder that SE literally thinks NA is too stupid to have things like -aga spells. Or normal conversations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    Y'all love dragging out that quote. Has nothing to do with the performance. She's no worse than the other terrible VA we have in this game, SE frankly just doesn't want to hire top talent. And I know they could afford it.

    Or maybe they are too hard to work with and folks like Jennifer Hale turn down the roles. Who knows. But the fixation on this particular actress's personal life and opinions is over the top. Let's discuss how bad this xpac OVERALL just is. Writing, direction, all of it, it's just bad, more of the same, treadmill, dull. There is nothing new or exciting and that just exacerbates everything else.

    I think that folks don't appreciate how difficult it can be to bring life to a character that is already written with a terrible identity. The traits the author intended to be endearing are instead obnoxious, they can't seem to decide on an accent for the folks in this region (or ANY region, for that matter), and the overall missing identity of the game in general all makes the VA feel worse than objectively it is. She's articulate, it's not nails on a chalkboard, we just have a real deep-seated problem with the way they constructed this xpac overall that I'm not sure even an actress like Jennifer Hale could have carried it. This is a HEAVY lift.

    Is Wuk Lamat's VA great? No, she didn't knock it out of the park. But neither is she as bad as some of you are intent on saying she is. A lot of it is direction - the slow, halting way most of the characters speak because that's how JP think Americans actually communicate is 100% direction. I end up skipping many cutscenes because I've read the text and the character hasn't gotten past the first half-sentence. No VA can overcome that and while maybe I'd let it play just to hear Keith David talk, it's just another reminder that SE literally thinks NA is too stupid to have things like -aga spells. Or normal conversations.
    If SE still thinks NA is too stupid to have aga spells, thats a problem of the inhouse Localizers
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    Nah she wants to talk shit publicly, that conversation is our business especially since she's the face of the expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Nah she wants to talk shit publicly, that conversation is our business especially since she's the face of the expansion
    Fair enough, but I think y'all need to focus on her performance if you want to criticize her performance. Folks are allowed to have opinions and there's some validity to wanting a character that's portrayed as representative of your identity being voiced by someone who brings authenticity to that identity. I get it. I may be of the mind that ANY representation is better than what we all had before and accept them as the good faith gestures I believe they are, but being a cis woman who's been relegated to the back seat for so long I guess I have been conditioned to have a less strong opinion about stuff like that anyway. And it has nothing at all to do with Wuk Lamat or this glaringly bad xpac.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZodaSoda View Post
    If SE still thinks NA is too stupid to have aga spells, thats a problem of the inhouse Localizers
    Can't divorce them from the company. It's insulting they thought folks new to FF couldn't read a tooltip, instead they made everyone who already HAD been playing FF for their entire lives reacclimate to this silliness. It's an example of how little they think about us that SE didn't take a stand on it and let them basically shit all over 30+ years of lore.

    Yea, that makes me salty.
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    Unfortunately, it was clear that the VA was already straining her voice when Wuk was talking normally. Which resulted in her not having enough range to properly manage other tones resulting in most yelling scenes sounding incredibly flat.

    Though some of it should have also been amended in post-production.

    It's kind of like Eric Carman from south park. Originally Trey Parker was voicing Eric completely on his own, but it ended up straining his throat too much that they had to change it to a more normal voice during production and then changing the lines in post-prod.
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    I wish Samantha Béart voiced Wuk Lamat for the EN part, alas..
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