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    Please give English Speakers more respect. Dawntrail terrible English voice acting

    It's like they didn't even care.
    First...the "protagonist" of Dawntrail Wuk Lamat. Flat delivery, no range of emotions, monotone as hell, extremely amateur.
    The fact SE hired this clearly B grade VA for important role like this just shows a extreme lack of care for English speakers...everybody has to start somewhere but who at SE heard her delivery for the final boss and thought "yeah this is banger, ship it".
    I found out this VA is part of the LGBT community so it's little wonder she has so much defenders..I'm sorry but I just can't help but realize how disingenuous it is...
    Just because she's trans doesn't mean she can't receive criticism, stop defending her and pretending she did good just because what she identifies as.
    In the western community, being trans is the ultimate shield from criticism and I'm sick of it.
    I'm probably going to get called transphobic now but I have tons of trans friends in school and in-game so you can miss me with that crap so don't even try.

    I'm not sure if the voice director is to blame here or just purely the voice actors.
    Even main stays didn't sound like themselves, everybody sounded bored and recording from a bad mic.

    The amount of little quality control is staggering when it came to the English voice cast.
    The new voices did terrible as well like bakool ja ja.
    Only one that did good was koana.

    This is the 5th expansion. I have zero idea why SE just didn't care about the voice acting for the expansion that's supposed to be a new beginning.
    Just because it's a new beginning doesn't mean bring back ARR tier voice acting.

    This just shows the lack of respect they had for us.
    Another example...erenville has an Icelandic accent...so why does his mom have an American accent? Like what??
    Where did he get that accent? Is he faking?
    The voice director couldn't even be bothered to get an Icelandic women to voice his mother.

    This shows us SE didn't give a crap about consistency and as I said..just a lack of respect for English speakers.

    JP on the other hand...got high end top notch anime voice actors that shown emotions in their lines.
    Seriously...wuk is way better if you listen to her in jp. Still a terrible character but at least her lines have some emotions unlike the English where it's one tone through out.
    How is it DT which has a massive budget...has worse voice acting that HW and SB?

    Again...SE just didn't care, the voice director didn't care.
    They just got voice actors that fit a certain demographic.
    If you wanna get LGBT actors and south Americans/Latino voice actors..fine..but get good ones that actually give a crap about their delivery.
    SE...fire the voice director or whoever was in charge of supervision of overseeing the voice lines because they're clearly there for just a pay check and doesn't care about quality.

    Also this is going to sound harsh but get a better VA for wuk, her current VA is not suited for such a large role.
    Get someone with more experience and actually knows how to show emotions...
    It's too late and everybody already has a bad taste in their mouth but it's not too late for 7.1 onward.
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    Last edited by Plushy; 07-06-2024 at 12:45 AM.

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    Quick, someone post the ‘it’s not even bait at this point’ image!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Quick, someone post the ‘it’s not even bait at this point’ image!
    see this is the problem, valid criticism is written off as trolling then they run with the narrative that hate and bigotry are the only reason we dont like Rey skywalker boruto, err i mean wuk..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus View Post
    see this is the problem, valid criticism is written off as trolling then they run with the narrative that hate and bigotry are the only reason we dont like Rey skywalker boruto, err i mean wuk..
    Eh, it goes both ways. I also think it's sus when people post positive opinions about Wut Lamer - but I do agree with you overall.
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    Personally, I disliked Wuk both as a character and her English VA before I knew anything at all about the actor. Another idea that would be nice though: The ability to change languages in a per character basis. So I could put Wuk on JP and leave everyone else English.
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    . . . Remember the twins voice in ARR?


    To actually add to the point though lol, I do kinda agree with you that the VA kinda fell flat on this one a bit. Other VA languages did an amazing job comparatively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Eh, it goes both ways. I also think it's sus when people post positive opinions about Wut Lamer - but I do agree with you overall.
    Are people not allowed to like Wuk Lamaty? I do at least. Lucky not everyone is the same or it would all be boring.
    Also this is plain criticism which is everyone s right to have but to call it "valid" criticism is trying to make it more important then it is, just a personal opinion.
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    and to be fair to Wuk's V.A. , this could be the same issue as Hayden Christensen in the star wars prequels, he is an amazing actor, but george lucas, who was the one in charge of directing him, picked the takes specifically that were cheesy and out there making him have some of the most meme'd deliveries of all time in his portrayal of anakin skywalker..

    so no all of this is not on Wuk, its on the director and staff that did not see to it that she had the necessary vocal coaches and understanding of the scene there to allow for her delivery to reflect the quality that we have come to expect from all other characters thus far.
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    Last edited by Mostly_Raxus; 07-06-2024 at 01:07 AM.

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    On the contrary, I think her voice actress does a good job... She just doesn't do a good job for the context of many of the scenes she's in. And I feel terrible for her. She was so excited to have this big role in this popular game, but the voice directors gave her nothing to work with.

    And you can tell it's the directors because it's not just her. Most voices have this problem, even the established characters who were great in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    Are people not allowed to like Wuk Lamaty? I do at least. Lucky not everyone is the same or it would all be boring.
    Also this is plain criticism which is everyone s right to have but to call it "valid" criticism is trying to make it more important then it is, just a personal opinion.
    Of course you are allowed, but when something is overwhelmingly disliked and someone appears to play Devil's advocate, one should always be careful of not feeding a troll. This is the Internet, it's how things work.


    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    On the contrary, I think her voice actress does a good job... She just doesn't do a good job for the context of many of the scenes she's in. And I feel terrible for her. She was so excited to have this big role in this popular game, but the voice directors gave her nothing to work with.

    And you can tell it's the directors because it's not just her. Most voices have this problem, even the established characters who were great in the past.
    If she does not do a good job in the context...she does not do a good job, period.

    The reasons are ultimately irrelevant: as consumers and buyers of a product, it's not our responsibility to figure out exactly WHAT went wrong.

    I don't care whose fault it is. I only care that someone ****ed up and that's not ok.
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