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  1. #11
    Player
    GodModule's Avatar
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    God Module
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Can't have fun in modern FFXIV
    (12)

  2. #12
    Player Battler-Ushiromiya's Avatar
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    Battler Ushiromiya
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    mandatory double weave during a fast gcd is killer on people with bad internet, so i hear
    This is the main problem with Viper and what they're going to change. For positionals they're probably going to change it on twinblade but leave the main combo strings alone.
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  3. #13
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Character
    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Well, to be fair, Viper suffers from a similar problem as Dancer, in that you have to keep an eye on a specific thing to make sure you are hitting the correct button (left or right for viper; one of the Simon says colors for dancer’s specials).

    It’s good design, but it should have audio cues or maybe a flashy color specific thing around your character to indicate what comes next without needing to look at some specific up element.

    If it were me I would have made the left sword always blue, right always red, then given a small glow to the pc of matching color. Have both colors when either is fine, and sound cue like it is for the finisher.

    Bonus points if they could make the color glow be on the actual sword model you are holding.
    Ah yes. Keeping an eye on your rotation that literally goes 111, 222, 112, 221. TOTALLY have to keep an eye on that combo. Yup yup yup.
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  4. #14
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    Artina-EU-PH's Avatar
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    Character
    Seraphina Automata
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    They made me dread 7.05, I hope not really much is changed. I love it as it is.
    (2)

  5. #15
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ToastieJay View Post
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    Simple answer is casuals.
    Actual answer is casual JP.

    Neither could gitgud, and so they cried for a week about the gameplay. This is usually always what happens when you cater to casuals. Always.
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  6. #16
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    This is the main problem with Viper and what they're going to change. For positionals they're probably going to change it on twinblade but leave the main combo strings alone.
    If you have trash internet in 2024, that's a you problem. Get better internet, stop living in the middle of the boonies and crying about having bad internet. Cant afford good internet? Maybe xiv shouldnt be a priority, and instead improve your life choices and priorities.
    (3)

  7. #17
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Ah yes. Keeping an eye on your rotation that literally goes 111, 222, 112, 221. TOTALLY have to keep an eye on that combo. Yup yup yup.
    or it could just be visual cues like most modern games do?
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  8. #18
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    Character
    Makoto Hinata
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Well, to be fair, Viper suffers from a similar problem as Dancer, in that you have to keep an eye on a specific thing to make sure you are hitting the correct button (left or right for viper; one of the Simon says colors for dancer’s specials).
    For dancer having to divide your attention between your bars and the fight is not a problem but rather the only single aspect of the job that is engaging at all.

    In the case of viper this isn't rng based and therefore super predictable, it doesn't require any simplification.

    If either of those are "problems" then you can just as well qualify any challenging aspect of the game as a problem.
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  9. #19
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    fun is illegal nowadays
    (5)

  10. #20
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    Character
    Lyra Shuu
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Please. Do. Not. Change. Viper.

    Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk~
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