About Positionals

[W00by]

Your opinion is valid, but it's not an objective statement. And if people are jumping to conclusions, I ask that you have patience with them, because a lot of them are probably scared. I don't know if you're a Viper main, but many of us spent weeks preparing for this job -- farming glamours, preparing hotbars, even logging out in the right spot to get the job as fast as possible. Speaking from my own anecdotal experience, I was already worried Viper was going to be far too easy just from what was shown at the media tour, which is why I was so happy to find it so engaging -- and it's also part of why I'm so worried that any level of easing its difficulty will turn it into something I personally don't find fun. We had the job for less than a week, so the changes are frightening based on the precedent that's been set.

This expansion, players lost complexity in Black Mage, Monk, Dragoon, Astrologian, and the devs seem to have tried to do it to Reaper by getting rid of double enshroud (though they seem to have failed in that regard). Last expansion, players lost pretty much all the complexity in Summoner, and they didn't do anything to add it back after years of complaints about Summoner. Therefore, people are worried that after six days, Viper is already on the chopping block when they found it fun.

I agree with you that Viper is perhaps a bit harder to jump into and play than other melees. I am aware of my own skill level and that it does not apply to the average player. But when there are already so many approachable jobs, is it so wrong to want Viper to stay a little more engaging? Players like us have almost no where to go if we want that challenge.

And don't get me wrong, I completely understand that there are some very unhelpful comments in these threads. I encourage anyone speaking in respects to Viper, either for or against, to explain their opinions with detailed and respectful reasons why. The devs need that kind of thing to decide what changes they want, so just screaming into the wind isn't helpful.

[Kazimere]

I main reaper. It’s just a more well rounded job, imo. I’ll back up with viper, cause the play is so good. I don’t want it to lose engagement either. Having said that, it does have some issues, and those are mostly relegated to the filler and the auto swap nature of the combo. The gap closer is garbage and it needs a defensive as well, but that’s just me.

[Kukajoo]

Positionals keep me from falling asleep when playing melee deeps very important very crucial

[ValStormbreaker]

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Overtly admitting you don't bother to read tool tips and just mash buttons is an admission to the opposite of what you're trying to advocate for. You're basically saying "I don't bother to understand what I'm doing, but this gameplay feature I personally don't understand because I don't bother to understand it since I don't want to read should be removed, at the expense of everyone else who doesn't mind them. I don't get it, so the entire game should bend over backwards for me and my ineptitude. I'm going to broadcast my point of view on the forums without engaging in either the self-reflection to consider how this sounds, or the self-control/self-restraint to think twice before engaging in this act,".

There is a visual indicator of what positional you should be hitting, on the targeting ring of the enemy. It's clear you don't understand how the game works.

Here's the thing... I'm not going to handle others with kid gloves or entertain tone policing. If you literally admit to not reading the tool tips and just mashing buttons, but then you're going to try and impose your will onto others with what features you believe can or should be removed... you have every right to do that, I suppose... but by the self-same song and tune, others also have the right to point out how ridiculous such a post is, and call into question your better judgment.

Sometimes, such things just need to be said. I don't really care about being "nice" and entertaining egos when posts this ludicrous advocate for taking features away from other people's enjoyment of something. At that point, you're imposing your will onto others - a will that is admittedly born of ignorance since you don't want to read or learn how the game works and just want to mash buttons.

Nothing is stopping you from doing that, ignoring them and not caring. As others have pointed out, it's not like you seem to do the sort of content where they'd be important anyway. But the very minute you want to take something away from other people that nobody is forcing you to do and that you can choose to ignore, you are imposing your will onto other people. That's morally and ethically wrong of you, and everyone has justification to push back against you for it. Under those circumstances, I shouldn't have to be "nice" to you about it.