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    Player
    Yancerr's Avatar
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    Eddard Tavers
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Noooooo, but Viper busyness was the main appeal, a fast paced job they said.... man, when finally they release a busy job they are gonna simplified it the first weeks.
    (10)

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    Negative Space
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    Seraph
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Viper was the one thing keeping me playing this xpac, I thought it was so fun...
    (10)


    My outline for a Chemist healer: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/513527-Healer-Concept-Draft-Chemist

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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 91
    Dumbing down a new job when it hasn't even been out for more then a week. They really ARE determined to remove all fun aren't they
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    Cynric Caliburn
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Dumbing down a new job when it hasn't even been out for more then a week. They really ARE determined to remove all fun aren't they
    No fun allowed apparently. It's a shame because like you say, the busy portion of the job is what makes it fun, people have barely had a chance to play it and they're already messing with it. Super sad and disappointing, Dawntrail has been nothing but disappointing so far, and I was so excited for it just a week ago.
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Yoshi P, it's okay to have some sort of depth to job gameplay, especially when it's not that deep to begin with like Viper. Seriously. The fast-paced action, combined with the positionals, is part of the appeal.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    DES_VII's Avatar
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    Des Kentaro
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    agreed leave it be. Well positionals is such a archaic thing to me, Could careless about removing some. Other than that the Class/Job is fun I love it.
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    Last edited by DES_VII; 07-05-2024 at 05:09 AM.

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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DES_VII View Post
    agreed leave it be. Well positionals is such a archaic thing to me, Could careless about removing some. Other than that the Class/Job is fun I love it.
    Melee rotations are so simple at this point that positionals are the only thing that make them even remotely engaging, and most hard bosses nowadays are just wall bosses anyway.
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DES_VII View Post
    agreed leave it be. Well positionals is such a archaic thing to me, Could careless about removing some. Other than that the Class/Job is fun I love it.
    I think the positionals have their place in Viper. Unlike most melees Viper isn't a weaving heavy job with your only true weave being the end of your normal combo since the long CD attack has a longer GCD so weaving isn't really a thing since it's so easy.
    Positionals make up the skill ceiling instead of weaving which I think is good for the job. It's not like it's incredibly positional heavy, it does less than Samurai and probably even Reaper per minute.
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    Ariane Aster
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I don't have a horse in this race as melee just doesn't appeal to me, but I've seen jobs I like be destroyed by SE trying to please the people that don't like them.

    In this game where you make it as easy as possible for a player to play as many classes as they want, please let each one cater to the people that like that specific gameplay.
    (13)

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    Etherea Stormaire
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I don't have a horse in this race as melee just doesn't appeal to me, but I've seen jobs I like be destroyed by SE trying to please the people that don't like them.

    In this game where you make it as easy as possible for a player to play as many classes as they want, please let each one cater to the people that like that specific gameplay.
    unfortunately, SE caters to the lowest possible denominator. some half blind one armed armadillo somewhere probably had a problem with Viper and pleaded for it to be changed. after that extensive feedback, it was deemed important to fix.
    (10)
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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