Please don't change Viper

[ShaliaK]

[Shinun]

Monkey Paw curls

[Amh_Wilzuun]

"Well we have to make at least one bad change so how about this one instead!"

[AniAG]

- Previously: Meaningful brain usage in deciding whether to refresh the 20s (up to 40s) debuff with 2, or decide it's still running long enough for you to go into Reawaken combo, start with 1 instead, perform a sequence off 3, what have you. Genuine decision-making. All the time.

- Now: 1 gives a one-time buff to the next 2, 2 gives a one-time buff to the next 1. Lasts for 60s, so no pressure. You just alternate how you start the main combo. Always, with all the time in the world to insert Uncoiled Fury or Reawaken. There is no thought to it, no timing, no deciding how much time you have - you just 1[...] 2[...] 1[...] 2[...] and pwess de beeg bottenz wen off CeeDee in between, with all the time in the world.

The thing that gave Viper actual thought was when to insert Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury besides main combo and Dread, and whether to start with 1 (deeps) or 2 (debuff) when Dread was down. Without literally pitch-perfect 100 % uptime and memorization of an absurdly long string, there was no autopilot with this - there was a decision required. Skill expression. A functioning brain in your cranium.

Was it some gigabrain stuff? No. Of course not. But in a game whose jobs are at this point largely dumbed down to the point where you could make a macro or bot press buttons in sequence while you use the arrow keys, it was a little wrinkle that kept your brain active while playing.

There is no need to think about that now - there is no debuff to keep up on any targets, you have all the time in the world to just completely linearly press Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury in any thinkable scenario when off CD, and you will always strictly alternate between 1 and 2 linearly on main combo start each time. Just try not to drool while your neurons flake to the bottom of your skull.

TL;DR: [See described decision-making above] was removed, and the job is now "222 112 221 111 + pwezz beeg bottenz wen iz off CeeDee". That's the job now. I just explained patched Viper. In its totality.

Was fun for the brief time it lasted. I'm... so... sick... of this lowest common denominator game design.

[AngaratoSvartberg]

- Previously: Meaningful brain usage in deciding whether to refresh the 20s (up to 40s) debuff with 2, or decide it's still running long enough for you to go into Reawaken combo, start with 1 instead, perform a sequence off 3, what have you. Genuine decision-making. All the time.

- Now: 1 gives a one-time buff to the next 2, 2 gives a one-time buff to the next 1. Lasts for 60s, so no pressure. You just alternate how you start the main combo. Always, with all the time in the world to insert Uncoiled Fury or Reawaken. There is no thought to it, no timing, no deciding how much time you have - you just 1[...] 2[...] 1[...] 2[...] and pwess de beeg bottenz wen off CeeDee in between, with all the time in the world.

The thing that gave Viper actual thought was when to insert Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury besides main combo and Dread, and whether to start with 1 (deeps) or 2 (debuff) when Dread was down. Without literally pitch-perfect 100 % uptime and memorization of an absurdly long string, there was no autopilot with this - there was a decision required. Skill expression. A functioning brain in your cranium.

Was it some gigabrain stuff? No. Of course not. But in a game whose jobs are at this point largely dumbed down to the point where you could make a macro or bot press buttons in sequence while you use the arrow keys, it was a little wrinkle that kept your brain active while playing.

There is no need to think about that now - there is no debuff to keep up on any targets, you have all the time in the world to just completely linearly press Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury in any thinkable scenario when off CD, and you will always strictly alternate between 1 and 2 linearly on main combo start each time. Just try not to drool while your neurons flake to the bottom of your skull.

TL;DR: [See described decision-making above] was removed, and the job is now "222 112 221 111 + pwezz beeg bottenz wen iz off CeeDee". That's the job now. I just explained patched Viper. In its totality.

Was fun for the brief time it lasted. I'm... so... sick... of this lowest common denominator game design.

you were struggling with keeping that buff up?

[Saraide]

- Previously: Meaningful brain usage in deciding whether to refresh the 20s (up to 40s) debuff with 2, or decide it's still running long enough for you to go into Reawaken combo, start with 1 instead, perform a sequence off 3, what have you. Genuine decision-making. All the time.

- Now: 1 gives a one-time buff to the next 2, 2 gives a one-time buff to the next 1. Lasts for 60s, so no pressure. You just alternate how you start the main combo. Always, with all the time in the world to insert Uncoiled Fury or Reawaken. There is no thought to it, no timing, no deciding how much time you have - you just 1[...] 2[...] 1[...] 2[...] and pwess de beeg bottenz wen off CeeDee in between, with all the time in the world.

The thing that gave Viper actual thought was when to insert Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury besides main combo and Dread, and whether to start with 1 (deeps) or 2 (debuff) when Dread was down. Without literally pitch-perfect 100 % uptime and memorization of an absurdly long string, there was no autopilot with this - there was a decision required. Skill expression. A functioning brain in your cranium.

Was it some gigabrain stuff? No. Of course not. But in a game whose jobs are at this point largely dumbed down to the point where you could make a macro or bot press buttons in sequence while you use the arrow keys, it was a little wrinkle that kept your brain active while playing.

There is no need to think about that now - there is no debuff to keep up on any targets, you have all the time in the world to just completely linearly press Reawaken or Uncoiled Fury in any thinkable scenario when off CD, and you will always strictly alternate between 1 and 2 linearly on main combo start each time. Just try not to drool while your neurons flake to the bottom of your skull.

TL;DR: [See described decision-making above] was removed, and the job is now "222 112 221 111 + pwezz beeg bottenz wen iz off CeeDee". That's the job now. I just explained patched Viper. In its totality.

Was fun for the brief time it lasted. I'm... so... sick... of this lowest common denominator game design.

It's so silly for the devs to do this because we can literally see from the logs that people were not struggling on viper. The job already had a fairly tight gap between low parses and high parses despite having an absolute mountain of people playing it which should be surprising for any job that is brand new.

[Isala]

Was fun for the brief time it lasted. I'm... so... sick... of this lowest common denominator game design.

XIV in a nutshell right there. Literally every decision they make is to cater to people without a pulse.

[GrizzlyTank]

I have no idea on what the gauge is telling me.

[Saraide]

I have no idea on what the gauge is telling me.

Literally just press the glowing button. The job plays itself.

[ovIm]

Was fun for the brief time it lasted. I'm... so... sick... of this lowest common denominator game design.

Amen. The job barely had a month to shine and make fans, and now that just gets shoved down the drain in lieu of removing friction. I can only shake my head.

I have no idea on what the gauge is telling me.

If you were to put Steel Fangs to the left of Dread Fangs, the glowing part of the gauge tells you whether to press left or right.
Additionally, the parts that fill up with light show you how far you have progressed in the combo. (Orange Halfway means you have pressed the first button, Steel or Dread Fangs, Orange and Blue all the way means you have pressed the second button and your next attack is a positional.)