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  1. #1
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    AngaratoSvartberg's Avatar
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    Angarato Svartberg
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blindheart View Post
    All I want with viper is to be able to separately assign all the skills from level 1 to 60 to the hot bar to be able to learn what each skill does and how it flows into the next. The new ability to choose whether or not to upgrade a skill on your hot bar or not is made for just this sort of thing. It takes nothing away from the class to allow for this.
    literally every single other class in the game lets you do this. we dont need another 1. we already have them. this works great
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    Superheal Dmgheal
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90

    dont change viper pls

    so far I had a lot of fun playing Viper but seeing the new upcoming changes scares me this job isn't difficulty but it makes up for it with how fast it is also having a good amount of positionals and having a really fun amount of ogcds so pls don't change this job it was so awesome to play it through DT
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Haven't really dipped into Viper yet as I've been spending time on my main jobs but this still seems like a massive knee jerk reaction. The job has literally only been out for less than a week at this point There's no reason to make any substantial changes to it (yet). Just let people actually get used to the way it plays and, if they don't like it, they can play something more to their style or tastes.
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    Burning Wrath
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    Kraken
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    This community sometimes lol...

    They take one of the easiest classes with so few keybindings and are going to nerf it further because you all cannot even handle that.

    I have like 20 keybindings on viper. The class is easy and intuitive as it is.
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    Hates Lalas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian25 View Post
    This community sometimes lol...

    They take one of the easiest classes with so few keybindings and are going to nerf it further because you all cannot even handle that.

    I have like 20 keybindings on viper. The class is easy and intuitive as it is.
    The majority of this thread and threads in English on Viper are pro keeping it the way it is

    Do you have a hobby of not reading threads you post in
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

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    Burning Wrath
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    Kraken
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    The majority of this thread and threads in English on Viper are pro keeping it the way it is

    Do you have a hobby of not reading threads you post in
    I fully understand the context of this thread, I am just not surprised that they are nerfing based on player whining. The "you all" was in a broad sense, meaning the FFXIV community at large, and not specifically referring to this thread, because lets face it, there have been many other instances where people complained about difficulty and that is how we got to where we are at with some of these dumbed down classes.
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    Hates Lalas.

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    Andy Bougard
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 59

    Job identity: A real or meanless marketing add?

    For the sake of the job identity please please please don't change Viper. Make me believe on job identity for real. Or job identity is just an meanless and shallow marketing campaign?
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    Andy Bougard
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 59

    Job identity what for? If every change makes all jobs alike

    Please don't touch Viper for the sake of job identity you SE has mentioned. Don't ruin one of the last class we melee dps can play and have fun. Don't make viper another SAM MNK SMN etc.
    Just bought Dawntrail because of Viper. Come on SE. Don't make me cancel the sub please. Viper the way it is is the only reason I still play this game gosh.
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    Vim Mercer
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    Alpha
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Vipers business is the main appeal. The fact that you have to keep up with the speed of the class and the debuffs is good - it keeps my brain actually entertained. No idea who these people are asking to change a class they have not even played for a bloody week...
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    AngaratoSvartberg's Avatar
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    Angarato Svartberg
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Vipers business is the main appeal. The fact that you have to keep up with the speed of the class and the debuffs is good - it keeps my brain actually entertained. No idea who these people are asking to change a class they have not even played for a bloody week...
    this! they setup this class perfectly and people just scream nerf after 5 minutes. which is too be expected but why cater to these people? we have 6 melee dps jobs. please let us keep this one and the people that dont like it just play the other ones. every post ive seen on FB twitter and reddit say the same thing .
    viper mains are loving it!!!! dont cater to the people that hate it you're never going to satisfy them.
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