Please don't change Viper

[OshKorosh]

The positionals make the job engaging and extremely fun to play. It's something to keep track of and engage with outside of your burst window. Please do not change viper I love it how it is currently!

[MulrianTheBard]

Viper has room for improvement.

* Ouroboros, Dreadwinder, and Pit of Dread should have a normal GCD, rather than an extended one. Since there's nothing to weave after those skills, it just makes those parts of the rotation feel oddly slow. Alternatively, those skills could just be made to proc Deathrattle.
* Twinfang Bite and Twinblood Bite could be made ranged, since being forced to drop those if the boss dashes away from you after a Coil GCD feels pretty bad, but this could just be something VPR players need to learn to deal with.
* Their progression should definitely be tweaked. As it stands, they have a two button rotation at level 50. Even just a hollowed out, one-charge version of Dreadwinder with no follow-ups would be something.

Removing positionals doesn't fix anything about the job, it just makes VPR simpler, and VPR is already pretty simple once you get it down.

[Remarus]

Adding my voice in support here.

The only thing they should change is applying the color coding to the Dualblade skills to properly identify flank and rear positionals on them. That's it. Don't touch it otherwise, it feels outstanding.

[angienessyo]

I want to know who's having difficulty with the positionals when they even color coded the ones in your normal combos. I pray they don't change anything drastically as I currently love how the job feels to play.

[Talaxin]

I agree, Viper is hands-down the most fun I've had playing a job in several years. I really hope the devs leave it as is. There are plenty of other melee options for those who don't like the playstyle.

[FatesChosenHero]

I agree with this. DO NOT CHANGE VIPER! I've been a melee main in this game since I started. Part of the fun on Monk in the old days was positional uptime in Savage content. Making sure I was hitting the right side for every GCD was FUN and was the best part of the job for me. I hate that they mostly just died that part of Monk out. So when Viper had 6 different GCDs with positionals I was excited! I could get the feel of old Monk with a new job that is fun and engaging to play! So please, for the love of Hydaelyn Yoshi-P, do not change Viper! Do not take this away! Please stop making melee jobs easier!

[Shae-Xahou]

This is my first time on the forum, and i'm here just because SE decide to make the game easier as always... Why you do that on a job that came out 2 days ago (if we don't count the Early Access). The job is not that hard, people just need time to learn it. I tried the job and it isn't hard at all, positionals aren't hard to understand since it's litteraly "Red = Back / Green = Flank", i'm still at LvL 82 with it but i want to play it as is it right now, with positionals. So please SE, litsen to the player and don't make a Monk 2.0 because some peoples can't read what an action do.

[Volteer]

It's funny because I didn't even touch VPR and I'm here. As first post. Saying I do not understand the logic behind this decision. What happened to SE's promises of looking into uniqueness of classes when the first change that is being done 1 week after a class release is making it easier and more in-line with already overlysimplified melee group? 7.0 has seen flexibility taken from SAM and DRG. Instead what we got was handholding in playing the class by tying certain skills and buffs to each other. Why is goring blade for PLD now usable only after using FOF? It's not like you'd want to use it anytime else, so are we doing it because people have fat fingers and miscast this? We gonna do entire combos tied to skills soon to ensure they're performed in proper order? Where's the line?

From what I know and hear from most VPR players is that they ACTUALLY ENJOY the class when they've enjoyed nothing at the end of EW. And now once again they're being handheld by SE changes to it so that it's more in-line with other classes so that your average Joe who can play 19 classes but can't figure out VPR can play VPR too just the same way he plays his 19 other classes. By hitting 123 in order and nearly nothing else. So much for uniqueness.

[Alice9]

Viper has been my most favorite job they have ever added- I would not like changes to something I already find so fun, it does not need simplification- let it have expression.

[Router]

I dont know who asked for these viper changes.

Japan.
Every stupid change generated by player "feedback" typically comes from Japan.