Please don't change Viper

[Nyctina]

I want to make my voice heard in the forums since its supposed to be the place to do it.
I have specifically made an account in the formuns just for this alone.
So please dont change Viper, its busy rotation and positionals are what define the class to me and what in my opinion makes it fun.

The Job hasnt been released since a week and it doesnt feel right to already change it without giving the players time to adjust to its playstyle.

Thank your for reading.

[Ayako-chan]

yes please :c have so much fun with this class
please dont change viper that early T_T

[Furrytractor]

I don't post on the forum often, but it's news like this that make me think that I NEED to let my voice be heard. I don't main Viper at least yet, but from what I played, I am having a lot of fun. It has been not even a week since it came out, so hearing these changes feels like a kneejerk reaction that should not be done. PLEASE do not change viper, let it sit for a while, there's no real "Problem" with viper. It's just a matter of lack of practice and skill that people have and are complaining to make it easier.

You said you wanted to make jobs more interesting. Then actually act on that word. Don't just say we're going to improve the jobs and invoke skill expression, then immediately take said skill expression out because people are complaining it's "Too busy". Not every job is for some people, and nor SHOULD it be. People liking one job and disliking another SHOULD be the norm. As long as there are not objective problems like how Monk's potencies are just imbalanced and thus the optimal rotation is extremely strange, don't change it because a few people said "I don't like how busy it is".

[Harusca]

I just want to chime in and add another voice to say: I'm loving Viper more than any melee dps in years and it's *because* of how many different actions I need to press, the high APM, and how I have to juggle my different resources/combos. I don't want to see the job's ceil skilling brought down for the sake of raising the skill floor when the job is still brand new.

[Cynric]

Adding to this, Viper is the first time I've actually had fun on jobs in like 9 years ish. Just let people learn the job, the game literally just came out and you're already making something easier?

I was actually enjoying something for once and when I woke up and saw this post about job changes it immediately ruined my day.

[RavenSho]

I agree with everyone here that Viper doesn't need any change.
I know some people have complained but I think it's safe to say a lot of us are really liking the new job as it is!

Please don't change viper! I want it to stay like this as it is a lot of fun! Keep it!

[ValStormbreaker]

I agree with everyone here that Viper doesn't need any change.
I know some people have complained but I think it's safe to say a lot of us are really liking the new job as it is!

Please don't change viper! I want it to stay like this as it is a lot of fun! Keep it!

Who are these "some people"? The problem is, in spite of there being allegations of people complaining... we haven't actually seen anyone do so. If it happened on the JP forums, we've not yet seen any links to verify these claims.

This is why I'm pretty certain it's just Naoki "I'm a white-belt at Monk" Yoshida, who needs stuff he wants to play dumbed down for him and buffed to high holy hell since he has shown on numerous live letters he doesn't understand how to do a rotation.

I already find it insulting that every DPS job now has the combo action dotted-line marquee holding everyone's hand through the combo sequence based on what the game knows what buffs the game knows you're running low on and what you need to reapply; this gets in the way of you paying attention and knowing this is something you need to do, and going on auto-pilot and following the dotted-line marquee makes people AVOID learning the "why" instead of helping them get into it. And yet, Yoshi-P himself is the same guy who refused to give us "Hall of the Intermediate," which could have had drills on keeping your timers up, doing your positionals right, etc. He refused to give us that to help teach players, but we get THIS!?

That is arguably what bugs me the most out of it. I think people need to stop defending the same guy who tried to gaslight us into thinking Eureka Pagos wasn't poorly designed, the players were the ones who were doing it wrong. Real Principle Skinner vibes, if you know the "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong," meme. People treat him like he's the second coming of Christ, but he's been out of touch for what players have wanted for years, and the dev team caters to his inability to play the game he's the director and producer of even decently.

Tbh he's been long overdue from an exit from FFXIV, people overly praise him for "fixing" the game with ARR by copying WoW, but that story is often told with the rosiest of rose-coloured glasses and people don't remember that 2.0 at its release was still pretty bad, and Guild Wars 2 dominated FFXIV in Japan for good reason until the Japanese servers were pulled in 2015. People think level 50 content is what ARR was like when it was fresh. Oh, my sweet summer children...

Sakaguchi seems to care a bit too much for FFXIV, I say let him take over.

[Nyctina]

Please dont change Viper, its super fun the way it is and absolutley not to busy!

[ScarletE]

to contribute to this, please don't change viper!!

[ToastieJay]

Please do not change this job it is perfect fine the way it is


Besides I believe it is too early to even consider job changes