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  1. #11
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    OshKorosh's Avatar
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    Character
    Osh Mangai
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I would like to add my voice to not fix Viper. The burst is already very simple, the exciting part of Viper comes from everything outside of its burst. The uncoiled fury already can be used as filler to account for delaying a positional, and true north is also an option that can be used. If Viper's positionals are removed or lowered overall, one of the main aspects of what makes it fun and exciting to play is stripped away. Please reconsider the planned Viper changes. Dawntrail is an expansion that's been advertised as the one that will make the game more fun. This is a really fun aspect of Viper.
    (16)

  2. #12
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    Gugnir's Avatar
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    Character
    Fri Day
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Oh wait so this isn't an early April fools joke. SAD. This job needs zero adjustments. Its fine as it is.
    (11)

  3. #13
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    One_Sock's Avatar
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    Character
    One Sock
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Who could possibly have complained that VPR is "too busy" and needs changing? This job feels perfect. Please for the love of Emet-Selch don't dumb down an already low IQ job. High APM doesn't mean hard.
    (11)

  4. #14
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    Character
    Milla Sakaki
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    if they dumb viper down i will be so upset. I haven't had this much fun with a job in years.

    the positionals and the ogcd combos are fantastic and fun, the fact that the job is active is what makes it so great, removing that would remove the fun of the job.

    PLEASE do not change the job se
    (13)

  5. #15
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    ShaliaK's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Red Rock
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    I'm also curious where this feedback comes from. As far as I could tell, people liked the busyness? It's not like the old DRK opener at all, the most busy it gets is just pressing your ogcd combo every so often. Even Reawakened with it's ogcd weaves are not that bad. I really want to know who's saying it's too busy to play comforatbly, or who they have in mind that would find it too busy to play. Maybe we need more people saying how much they like the current iteration of busyness on Viper...?
    (10)

  6. #16
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    Character
    Ell Bright
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Deciding to change a new job less than a week after it came out is extremely silly. A large amount of players havent even reached endgame and the ones that have havent had enough time to fully adjust to the job and build muscle memory.

    Yoshi-P kept talking about how they dumbed things down too much in EW and that they wanted to add a bit of stress back. Yet what were seeing doesnt match what he said at all. Very disappointing.
    (20)

  7. #17
    Player
    Gugnir's Avatar
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    Character
    Fri Day
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    All they're gonna do is break something that isn't broken. This job is already easy enough to play. The game literally tells you what button to press next. MY HOT BAR LOOKS LIKE A NEON LAS VEGAS STRIP. Is reading tool tips too hard for people now? Is moving left or right what they consider busy. This is the job you signed up for, rise to the occasion or play a different job, like monk. Go be a monk. Leave viper alone. >:C
    (10)

  8. #18
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    OliverQ's Avatar
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    Character
    Olyvar Queen
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    This is frustrating. Brand new job and they're going to dumb it down immediately. I'm guessing the JP forums are complaining that positionals are too hard. But it's one of the things that makes it fun.
    (8)

  9. #19
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    Character
    Siegfried Berhtsch
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    It's really sad to see such an overreaction for something that hasn't been out for even a whole week yet.
    This job anxiety feels like a lack a vision and a want for acceptance from the Square Enix team.
    As a passionate Viper player, I would really hate it if the job was changed, and would simply stop playing the job altogether.
    (10)

  10. #20
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    Character
    Ignia Estalia
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    adding my voice here, please please don't already change viper. It hasn't even been a week yet and most people haven't had a chance to fully level and play it yet. It's the most enjoyable a melee has been in a long time for me.

    busyness doesn't make sense when the majority of the class is just gcds.

    the class is actually making me consider raiding on a different role when i normally just phys range
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