JP Official Forums are also criticizing the Dawntrail MSQ.

[Voidmage]

It's their game. They make the product; you choose whether to purchase it. End of story.

If you ignore the feedback of your customers then you already failed not just as a developer.
This is not a small fanfiction, this is a long lasting product.

That's not how the marked works.
You make a product, you gather feedback you try to make the produkt better first to take in more customers and to keep your customers.

If you go around with the attitude "Well deal with it, we don't care for your feedback" that's a big red flag right there.
MMO's the most of all genre live from the satisfaction of the players. Single player games only have to sell one time.
Feedback was the erason we got the really good dungeons this time and the facewear glamour. Without it you would still be clunking in ARR style fights.

I really wonder what your goal is with that take. You are actually implying to not give feedback or criticism.

[Vahlnir]

That's not how the marked works.
You make a product, you gather feedback you try to make the produkt better first to take in more customers and to keep your customers.

If you go around with the attitude "Well deal with it, we don't care for your feedback" that's a big red flag right there.

The WoW developers went down this road for a while and the game still hasn't fully recovered from it. I see similar writing on the wall with FF XIV and it's a shame so many are stuck blindly worshipping FF XIV, Yoshi P and SE as if they can do no wrong.

[BadAtGames]

there is a weird fetishization of the thoughts and opinions of JP. Just because JP likes/dislikes something doesn't mean anything beyond they liked or disliked it. And there are JP people who like it just as much as they dislike it. This thread is dumb.

The reason why they posted this is because the FFXIV team has always been more receptive to the Japanese player base. Many people would like to see some problems addressed, and if the JP players have the same problem, then there's hope that something can be done about it. Hope this helps

[HighlanderClone]

there is a weird fetishization of the thoughts and opinions of JP. Just because JP likes/dislikes something doesn't mean anything beyond they liked or disliked it. And there are JP people who like it just as much as they dislike it. This thread is dumb.

Not when the dominant narrative has always been "JP loves it so please shut up your opinion doesn't matter!"

[Zolvolt]

Not when the dominant narrative has always been "JP loves it so please shut up your opinion doesn't matter!"

Thats a dumb take as well. JP's opinions aren't better than ours just because they're JP. JP is just as divided as we are on topics in the game because people are individuals.

[fioravictorine]

I am wondering did Yoshi P or devs commented anything on all this feedback?

It will be very sad if they just dismissed all criticism as 'vocal minority' making noise and thinks the current direction is fine

'Wuk? Its just a small handful of haters. Everyone loves her including us the dev team! Please look forward to more Wuk in the future'

'The WoL as a useless walking camera for cooler MC Wuk was a great idea, players already seem to warm up to it. We will do it more!'

[Zolvolt]

I am wondering did Yoshi P or devs commented anything on all this feedback?

It will be very sad if they just dismissed all criticism as 'vocal minority' making noise and thinks the current direction is fine

'Wuk? Its just a small handful of haters. Everyone loves her including us the dev team! Please look forward to more Wuk in the future'

'The WoL as a useless walking camera for cooler MC Wuk was a great idea, players already seem to warm up to it. We will do it more!'

They don't look at things like that.. game designers don't look at complaints as "oh it's just a vocal minority" If they choose not to act on feedback it's usually along the lines of

"well if we did it that way it would make x y z worse for a type or b type players and that is more important. but maybe we can compromise? we will see what we can do"
"we see a lot of different feedback and will come to a compromise that gives a little less focus on one specific character, but in terms of our story telling there where be times when we want the spotlight to be on a character or a specific set of characters in order to achieve the story we want to tell"

They always consider the feedback they are given. and not just one person ,they have hours of team meetings on feedback. I freaking hate how many gamers just have no idea how any of this works and just claims the devs don't listen and ignore feedback. Saying stuff like that makes developers WANT to ignore you. how would you like it if several thousand people told you you suck at your job and never consider their feelings when almost all you do is consider their feedback. I'd intentionally stop listening to them at that point.

[fioravictorine]

They don't look at things like that.. game designers don't look at complaints as "oh it's just a vocal minority" If they choose not to act on feedback it's usually along the lines of

"well if we did it that way it would make x y z worse for a type or b type players and that is more important. but maybe we can compromise? we will see what we can do"
"we see a lot of different feedback and will come to a compromise that gives a little less focus on one specific character, but in terms of our story telling there where be times when we want the spotlight to be on a character or a specific set of characters in order to achieve the story we want to tell"

They always consider the feedback they are given. and not just one person ,they have hours of team meetings on feedback. I freaking hate how many gamers just have no idea how any of this works and just claims the devs don't listen and ignore feedback. Saying stuff like that makes developers WANT to ignore you. how would you like it if several thousand people told you you suck at your job and never consider their feelings when almost all you do is consider their feedback. I'd intentionally stop listening to them at that point.

I dunno about that, they acted pretty quick on Viper gameplay changes based on 'feedback', whatever that means

[Karkarov]

I mean it isn't that hard to salvage the story of Dawntrail. Just put wuk lamat on a chair in tuliolal, and let her sit there for the rest of eternity and never speak again. Then for whatever plot comes next let my character actually do something alone sometimes, no erenville, no scions, just me doing something alone. Then stop giving me a dialog with 3 choices that are all saying the same thing in slightly different ways, and make the npcs do more than stare at me, blink, then continue their conversation as if I didn't speak at all when I pick my option.