JP Official Forums are also criticizing the Dawntrail MSQ.

[Shibi]

....was more nuanced and has more depth than DT.

Yeah, but week old underwear has more nuance and depth than furry grrl.

[Voidmage]

A few things that bother me on top of everything bad about Wuk is how our character gets beaten in a way that needs help. I'm sorry but at this point we should be able to beat anything with our hands tied behind our backs. Seeing us just let that lizard brother walk away after he killed his father was dumb ass fuck I'd rather at least let us woop his ass and have him teleport away to escape and not just simply let him walk away.

Another scene with that wolf boss we fight with the npc's in solution 9 we get electrocuted and we seriously can't escape on our own? we shouldn't need help to escape from some weak ass electricity. I'd also argue we should have had some form of foreshadowing at the end to signify our next big bad that either rivals or even surpasses the Ascians. I always liked those cliche moments we used to have at the end of an expansion that gave us a tease of the what could the Ascians be plotting. Let's hope sakaguchi talks some sense into them because I'm betting he isn't going to be fund of Wuk Lamat lol.

This here so much.
Like I get it we are powerfull but at least use that for the story.
Us beating Zoral Ja would have been the perfect excuse for him to seek this power or to delay his next attack.
Maybe have him spring a trap for us to keep the danger away from him. The others struggle, we break out of the trap, run to him and then the second trial starts.
The wolf boss as well. Make it so, we get kicked out of the arena and have to rush in while Otis holds the attack of and we help the others, you know like the time Hien holds of Elidibus Zenos for us.

There are so many ways to make a powerful player Charakter work but the just choose the cutscene incompetence trope.

At this point I wish part of our power gets sealed in one expansion just so we can have realistic struggles again. But I already see Wuk Lamat coming in then, solving that problem and we give her Azems crystal as a reward just because „she is that awesome“
Make her ride on a rainbow too to show everyone how important she is.

You forgot she also needs a time machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6F1O6RcYY

Gave me a good laugh xD

[lolnotacat]

This here so much.
Like I get it we are powerfull but at least use that for the story.
Us beating Zoral Ja would have been the perfect excuse for him to seek this power or to delay his next attack.
Maybe have him spring a trap for us to keep the danger away from him. The others struggle, we break out of the trap, run to him and then the second trial starts.
The wolf boss as well. Make it so, we get kicked out of the arena and have to rush in while Otis holds the attack of and we help the others, you know like the time Hien holds of Elidibus Zenos for us.

There are so many ways to make a powerful player Charakter work but the just choose the cutscene incompetence trope.

At this point I wish part of our power gets sealed in one expansion just so we can have realistic struggles again. But I already see Wuk Lamat coming in then, solving that problem and we give her Azems crystal as a reward just because „she is that awesome“
Make her ride on a rainbow too to show everyone how important she is.

You forgot she also needs a time machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-6F1O6RcYY

[Absurdity]

I'm honestly whatever about the story for now, if the content delivers I couldn't care less.

I look at it like this, the story is something I do once, it takes up not even 5% of my playtime.

If the story is the main focus, like it was in Endwalker, then it better be airtight or I'm ripping it apart, but if the focus is on the other 98% of the game I can overlook a bad story.
It's why Stormblood is still by far my favourite expansion despite it's mediocre MSQ, it delivered on everything else.

[Elkanah]

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Im still surprised that (we) as the WoL have not told everyone how we're god killing machines. Especially against Zoraal Ja and Bakool Ja Ja. The fact that Zora had the nerve to say he could be all powerful.

TF? Get a load of this mfer who thinks he can be a god. I. AM. A. GOD. KILLER. TF YOU THINK YOU ARE, SON? YOU. ARE. NOBODY. YOU'RE NOTHING.

And even in the end, he turned out to be a nobody anyways. Not to his son, not to the people in Tural, and not even to Sphene.

Even funnier that we arent mentioned earlier as the person who smashed Manxome Molaa Ja Ja in Wanderer's palace (Hard) being both leader and second-in-command of the Silverscales. Molaa Ja Ja's purpose for crossing the sea to Eorzea was to win glory and strengthen his claim to the throne of the Aurarch, ruler of all Mamool Ja.

Like-- "hey, aint that the person who defeated Molaa Ja Ja (two headed mamool ja)"?. Really? No mention?? Like, we have slain thousands and thousands of monsters, bosses, and gods. But not 1 mention of us destroying that guy who came to Eorzea, and we sent him packing.

.....k.

[AlexaAura]

-Spoilers Of course-
The Writing just feels super sloppy at times.
Bakool Ja Ja apparently cares deeply about the young of his people, and wants to not seem like a failure to his father and guide his people out of the forest to prosperity....Yet he let's a creature free that could kill everyone on the entire continent...? I mean...how exactly were you planning on dealing with that after you became Dawnservent...? Apparently freeing an all-consuming genocidal monster is fine; but attacking an Elector for a Keystone is grounds for disqualification. I know the current king did not intend to give up his throne to anyone unworthy, but maybe don't let this maniac free doing whatever he wants maybe?
The most jaw dropping part though was at the end when they basically say to Sphene-

"What will you do after you kill every person on every reflection? You'll run out of souls eventually, and then what? The Endless won't last forever. You''re just delaying the inevitable."

And does she give a compelling reason on why she should still do it?

No.
She says nothing.

I mean wow, I didn't agree with Emet-Selch, Nidhogg, or Endsinger but atleast i understood WHY they were doing what they did. She took in the Tural refugees with open arms so clearly she has the capacity to care about the happiness and welfare of people other then her citizens.
It could work if she thought of everyone who wasn't an Alexandrian as beneath her, or maybe showed how the Turali's who were trapped in the dome were treated as second class citizens MAYBE i'd understand her then.
But as a whole Sphene and the end game zones were at the very least somewhat interesting so i'll give them that.

Wuk Lamat I thought was okay. But why are we advocating for people we met for like 5 hours to be leaders of nations. I'm shocked Alphinuad was not more apprehensive about this whole thing. Did they really learn nothing from the Crystal Brave fiasco, and how you shouldn't just give people power because they seem nice or trustworthy? The fact that the smart and calculating Alphinuad just went along with it and even volunteered to help this stranger just really rubbed me the wrong way.

[Nebelheim]

I was excited for the story before release but once I finished it the only part I like the most was the western themed zone where we got a short break from wuk lamat. I even feel the music this expansion was a step down from previous expansion even though I still like the music. It's like they took all the worst parts of stormblood and arr and mashed them together for the first half then tried to pull a shadowbringers/endwalkers type story for the 2nd half but then force wuk lamat to be the main character through it.

[Shialan]

Im still surprised that (we) as the WoL have not told everyone how we're god killing machines. Especially against Zoraal Ja and Bakool Ja Ja. The fact that Zora had the nerve to say he could be all powerful.

TF? Get a load of this mfer who thinks he can be a god. I. AM. A. GOD. KILLER. TF YOU THINK YOU ARE, SON? YOU. ARE. NOBODY. YOU'RE NOTHING.

Because the WoL DOES NOT WANT TO BE THAT. They want to be an adventurer. See new stuff. And not be the go-to person if shit hits the fan.

[BakoolJaJa]

Because the WoL DOES NOT WANT TO BE THAT. They want to be an adventurer. See new stuff. And not be the go-to person if shit hits the fan.

So another thing the writers failed at?

It's been said a million times already. People were open to a vacation expansion. People didn't mind an expansion where we travel looking for adventure, see new stuff and get a break from world ending threats. Dawntrail isn't that expansion. We do not go looking for adventure, we go on a literal business trip. We are a mercenary hired to do a job. Helping the third promise win the contest is nothing but a job. Aka we are the "go-to person if shit hits the fan." Not what we wanted, but that is exactly what we got. People are actually envious of Estinien, because it looks like he's the one adventuring, seeing new stuff, and not being the go-to person if shit hits the fan.

And of course the second half of the story is just... Shit hitting the fan... At which point everybody turns to us... Another huge threat to take care of, never mind our vacation and what we wanted. So how is your reasoning relevant at all to the story we actually got?

[Raven2014]

Because the WoL DOES NOT WANT TO BE THAT. They want to be an adventurer. See new stuff. And not be the go-to person if shit hits the fan.

Than why we're babysitting a princess in her quest to succeed to the throne of an entire continent?

Why we still have to face a world ending threat, but this time we just got someone else stealing the show after we did the work?

Frankly the more I think about it, it seems the whole "it's a vacation" is not a reason or intention because the back story still set a stage way above that. It's more like a deflection/excuse so the writers team can use to side line the WoL and Scion so they can insert the most hated NPC in FF14's history in the center stage.

I said it before, if the goal is truly to write a vacation/adventure expack, they could just write a Lara Croft or India John story. That's why the stake is kept low while our character can still remain as the focus. Heavy Spoiler warning:

The last zone and boss are basically mimicing the last zone and boss of the last 2 expansion. Endless zone is basically Amuroth 2.0, and Sphene is basically Metion 2.0

in what world is that a vacation? Like I'm kinda baffle people believe and still try to use the "it's a vacation" excuse, do you just believe whatever SE tell you without ever questioning it makes sense or not?