Final fight too hard?

[UmJammerSully]

I'm not understanding why it being a story mission means the fight should be a cakewalk, not like every other Final Fantasy had easy final bosses just so people could experience the story. I know it's an MMO and it's different and such, but still...

Make the Darnus fight easy and then there's no sense of accomplishment. It's really not that bad anyway, I'd say the difficulty is just right.

[Hyrist]

Yeah... DarthTaru just lost all credibility with me.

CoP was awesome, but it was prohibitively difficult.

Prohibitive on the factor that four years into the content less than a third of the population had gotten into Sea. It was a terribly dividing expansion that really did destroy the FFXI community into the 'casual vs hardcore' debate that we're facing today.

Still the best expansion FFXI had, mind you, but it also exhibited the same fundamental flaws that rewarded no-lifer gameplay masked as 'dedication' that many early FFXI aspects had. I 'dedicated' years getting people past that content because I believed the story was worth it. But three difficulty tweaks and an ultimate removal of the level cap later, and I realized just how terrible the barrier to entry was for it.

Do not praise CoP for its difficulty. It's part of the reason FFXI didn't do better.


This all said: The Legatus Battle is in a good place. Hard, yet beatable once you realize what's going on. More a matter of tactics than a specific and exploitative stacking build or screaming at people to bring and properly used a pre-farmed consumable.

For someone who's just jumped back in the game, and haven't shaken off the rust from not playing? This might seem to be a fight that's too difficult. But given where it is in the story's plot-line, it's quite appropriate. The easier fights were earlier in the plot. Now is the time to be challenged.

[HiirNoivl]

Going in and not knowing the strategy, I had an absolute blast as WHM...

An absolute 9999.

[Felis]

Op: How many Final Fantasy games has your friends played to the end that they complain that an end boss battle is not easy?
The battle is not your common battle, it is the end boss battle. If you can't beat it, look for better equip, think about the strats and what skills could be good. And then, try it again until you win.

[Azmar]

What you guys even feeding op? Half the time people complain its too easy, too dumb, or something that makes no sense. For once people are complaining its too hard and everyone wants the fight to be cakewalk? Losing faith in the FF playerbase here...if the fight was too easy op would have made a thread saying its too easy im gonna leave to go play WoW for a challenge.

[Azmar]

oh and you got op complaining about this fight on other peoples thread, about the infamous animation lock.... I guess he doesn't know how to fight ifrit either and he is too hard.

[Goufunaki]

Blaming the existence of these forums. Hope they're shut down shortly after 2.0 release.

Ever think about just going away instead?

You hate the forums, you want it closed, but you're still here.

[Hyrist]

Ever think about just going away instead?

You hate the forums, you want it closed, but you're still here.

Because he feels he absolutely must stand here to oppose the worst of the ideas that flood his board, less those he disagree with actualy impact his game. And he'd be right.

The issue here is this "I'm better than you." Attitude that seems to scream from Darth Taru and like-minded players. The CoP praising is a great yardstick for this.

If you think CoP was the best thing ever, then you're bias towards hardcore. From that point you could pretty much extrapolate the opinion that's going to come from that poster at every turn.

Same is true for obscene casuals. The forums tend to polarize the base, though each group is content to blame another for it's condition.

Oddly enough no one will recognize that this sort of discourse is actually healthy for the game, provided it's properly moderated. Having a wide opinion base and make it so you'll get a balanced result.

Heavy Hardcores already have stated this fight was too easy and they're looking forward to hard mode.
Heavy Casuals are going to complain that the fight is too difficult until a path of least resistance is established.

That's actually balanced. So long as it doesn't impede the majority of the playerbase from actually passing the fight once the battle is settled,(as this is story-line) then we're golden.

[Yumi_Hibiki]

I like how a lot of people saying the fight isn't too hard haven't even beaten the fight...

I like how the first reaction after some people noticed they can't just faceroll the fight is to complain on the forums that its too hard just hours after the patch ^~^

[Hyrist]

Right, the idea isn't to just walk in and beat this thing within the first few tries.

Well, not unless you're a dedicated hardcore endgame LS.

You're supposed to work at it. Not get discouraged, analyze what's going on and move forward. This isn't an FPS, game over does not mean you are a flat out loser and should ragequit life.

It means 'try again'.

I wonder if any of these guys could stomach dark/demon souls.