Fisher NEEDS a rework

[Antoine_Lenheim]

I'd say, not like rework rework but more "FSH needs to be relevant".

Because, let's be honest here. You are only reminded about fishing when the new aethersand tier drops in and you need ones that come from fishes. Aside from it, how does it feel having an inventory full of stinky and absolutely useless fish? That only one CUL on your server will ever buy from you on marketboard?

It's insane how FSH is not relevant when put against other two gatherers. 95% of the fishes you catch are absolute junk that you can only put on the canvas, the other 5% are needed for CUL recipes and well, good luck selling that. And what's the point of big green named fishes other than you can put some in aquarium?

If you compare FSH to BTN and MIN in terms of scrip farming, again, it's WAY easier to pull out the other gatherers. Same for treasure maps.

FSH needs some more recognition! They should do something about it because it's been this way for god knows how long. The last meaningful addition to fishing was ocean fishing but well, who goes ocean fishing once they get all the rewards from there?

Maybe one step into the right direction would be increasing the amount of scrips you get when turning in collectable fishes compared to logs or ores. The other proposition is to add some actual rewards for catching big fishes, maybe add some NPC who will accept them for monetary reward (gil or scrips or maybe a new currency entirely).

And yeah, I understand that maybe the main point of FSH is being a fun, relaxing and non-commited job that kills time in between roulette queues, while you listen to lofi radio, I get all that. But honestly, to me it's a damn shame that such a fun job really falls behind the other two gatherers in terms of actual usefulness.

[Raraka]

I feel like a tackle box should be the first in line QoL for fishing

After that, yeah, we can start looking into other improvements. A new fishing minigame perhaps (tied to ocean fishing or certain fish?), a overall review of the rewards when compared to the other gatherers, etc

My personal approach would be to add fish bounties in a board similar to the hunt board, awarding the reward for catching it yourself and not from the Market

Complementary, allowing "useless" fish to be turned for steamed or dried fish, or kelp perhaps, for fishing-related crafts or generic food would be a welcome adition

[Antoine_Lenheim]

I feel like a tackle box should be the first in line QoL for fishing

After that, yeah, we can start looking into other improvements. A new fishing minigame perhaps (tied to ocean fishing or certain fish?), a overall review of the rewards when compared to the other gatherers, etc

My personal approach would be to add fish bounties in a board similar to the hunt board, awarding the reward for catching it yourself and not from the Market

Complementary, allowing "useless" fish to be turned for steamed or dried fish, or kelp perhaps, for fishing-related crafts or generic food would be a welcome adition

Yeah, fish bounties sound like a great idea! Maybe there can also be weekly challenges for catching specific type of fish or maybe even fisher's leaderboards for big fishes!

[Brightamethyst]

Fishing is mostly fine as is. A few QoL improvements would be nice (better bait management, longer windows for certain fish, etc), but beyond that I don't think it needs much. Yeah, most of the fish are literally worthless, but being a mostly self contained collectathon is kind of the point.

[Jojoya]

Fishing is more of a hobby than a dedicated gathering job in this game. I level mine so I can get what little I need for crafting on my own then otherwise ignore it. I've got much better ways to make gil.

If you're trying to make gil from it, go after the more interesting aquarium fish. Some will have good market value depending on popularity and how much effort is needed to get them.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

Fishing is more of a hobby than a dedicated gathering job in this game. I level mine so I can get what little I need for crafting on my own then otherwise ignore it. I've got much better ways to make gil.

If you're trying to make gil from it, go after the more interesting aquarium fish. Some will have good market value depending on popularity and how much effort is needed to get them.

Then why it is a separate gatherinmg job, with its own tools, MASSIVE fishing log and even it's own minigame for spearfishing? They clearly wanted fisher to be more than just a hobby, even judging by a sheer amount of effort they put into it, from descriptions of every fish, 95% of which are just useless fillers, to different baits, aquarium fishes, fishes on canvases etc etc etc

It's a helluva lot of effort for a hobby job to me. And it does seem like wasted effort because most of fisher's content do not have practical uses.

[Fruity_Snacks]

Then why it is a separate gatherinmg job, with its own tools, MASSIVE fishing log and even it's own minigame for spearfishing? They clearly wanted fisher to be more than just a hobby, even judging by a sheer amount of effort they put into it, from descriptions of every fish, 95% of which are just useless fillers, to different baits, aquarium fishes, fishes on canvases etc etc etc

It's a helluva lot of effort for a hobby job to me. And it does seem like wasted effort because most of fisher's content do not have practical uses.

Why is BLU a separate combat job with its own tools, massive spell log, and even the masked carnival minigame? Clearly, they wanted BLU to be more than just a limited job and piece of side content, judging by the sheer amount of effort they put into it, descriptions for all the spells, most of which really aren't used, to different spell vfx, etc. They even keep adding new stuff to it every few patches.

The thing most players miss about Fishing is that while Fisher may have started as a gathering job, it very quickly evolved into basically a DoL limited job akin to BLU for DoW's. It's an optional side thing that you can choose to do, or not to do. There is nothing wrong with giving people something to do. It's ok to have something to do and it not have a 100% purpose, some people just like to do things to do the thing.

...95% of which are just useless fillers, to different baits, aquarium fishes, fishes on canvases etc etc etc

It's a helluva lot of effort for a hobby job to me. And it does seem like wasted effort because most of fisher's content do not have practical uses.

When I checked about a year ago, ignoring the "I caught that" achievements, where you could make the argument every fish as purpose... Over 50% of fish had an actual use, either as a leve, GC turn in, quest turn in, delivery, big fish, crafting, etc.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

Fishing is more along the lines of 'gotta catch em all' passive. How many people do you know that have their whole fishing log completed?
You can also desynth the stinky fish for crystals.

[Kijani]

Or you can avoid the inventory clutter by tossing the stinky fish back into the water after you catch them with the job action Release List.

[Esmoire]

Fruity Snacks came and said what I wanted to. I don't think it's fair or necessary to compare FSH to other gatherers. Way I see it, it has two faucets to it. The first is purely of utility and how it can get things to get materials as a means to an end. It's the easiest class to level in the game, and they've made it competent for doing allied quests and custom deliveries. Get what you want and get out.

But that's not what people who love fishing see. They see the collection minigame, using fish to learn more about the lore of the setting, a sense of community, and a fun challenge. Fishing has a unique experience of planning and timing and both working with and besting nature. Like I agree we could do with some QoL but overall it's rewarding enough, both in terms of experience and monetary benefit. Think it's no coincidence fishing has worked out well when integrated with housing via aquariums, since both are largely activities you do as its own rewards.