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  1. #1
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    Xenoviastar's Avatar
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    Xenovia Azanai
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100

    Scholars lack of AOE

    Just why won't they touch Scholars, make energy drain AOE or make deployment tactic like PVP? would it truly hurt the game to give it some AOE? Scholars are by far the weakest healers in any AOE situation.

    comparing the healers only shows how disgusting it is
    Whitemage :
    lvl 45 Holy : AOE + Stun
    lvl 56 Assize
    lvl 74 Afflatus Misery
    lvl 92 Glare IV

    Astrologian :
    lvl 45 Gravity
    lvl 62 Earthly Star
    lvl 70 Minor Arcana = Lord of Crowns
    lvl 90 Macrocosmos
    lvl 92 Orcale

    Sage :
    lvl 26 Phlegma
    lvl 46 Dyskrasia
    lvl 66 Toxikon
    lvl 82 Eukrasian Dyskrasia
    lvl 90 Pneuma
    lvl 92 Psyche

    Scholar (saving the worst for last)
    lvl 46 Art of War
    ?? Nothing for 46 levels
    lvl 92 Baneful Impaction
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    Tunda King
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Scholar have best healing and sheilding kit in the game

    That's why balance is not okay in healers side
    Even though they are trying to make job homogenized it is still broken
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    SCH with the AoE capabilities of WHM/SGE would be hilariously busted. Like, deleting other jobs from dungeon runs completely kind of busted.

    +1, SCH already the ultimate healer, might as well make it the ultimate dps healer too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    SCH with the AoE capabilities of WHM/SGE would be hilariously busted. Like, deleting other jobs from dungeon runs completely kind of busted.

    +1, SCH already the ultimate healer, might as well make it the ultimate dps healer too
    Why are you implying that "adding AoE to Energy drain or spread dot with deployment tactic" wouldn't have compromising changes to existing skills? simply just reduce Art of Wars potency to compensate for the addition of the new AOE.
    I could spend hours going through data and write up how to add it in without affecting the balance but I am keeping it short and sweet. Please use some logic.

    I don't want to make scholar busted I just want something extra to do instead of slapping the ground.
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Honestly just having an upgrade to every drain to make it aoe around like level 69-79 would help a lot. Though a return of dot spread via deployment tactics should also be considered, could add a bonus trait on art of war to do extra damage if there's a dot on a foe to spice things up too.
    I miss shadowflare and miasma.
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    Olivia Lugria
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    AoW is gain on 2 >.>
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    SCH with the AoE capabilities of WHM/SGE would be hilariously busted. Like, deleting other jobs from dungeon runs completely kind of busted.

    +1, SCH already the ultimate healer, might as well make it the ultimate dps healer too
    I think the problem is less of more aoe damage being needed but a severe lack of aoe damage abilities for a long period of time. SCH aoe is in a very poor state because all of the damage comes from Art of War until 92.
    Anyway I think healers being deleted from dungeons in general is more of a risk then SCH, lol.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    SCH is a stronger raid healer than it is a dungeon healer so I don’t think SCH being too strong in dungeons is a particularly big problem

    SCH should honestly just get AOE energy drain and a bane off deployment at the absolute minimum in modern garbage healer design to make up for it. AOW is the strongest of the AOE spells and the only one that’s a gain on 2 but it’s just boring
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    V'els Wen
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I agree Scholar should have more AoE buttons! An energy drain upgrade into old Bane or just AoE would be lovely.
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  10. #10
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    Grim Gaelasch
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'd happily trade the dumbass seraphism skill for some AoE dot spread and AoE energy drain.
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