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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogempire View Post
    The biggest difference between Wuk Lamat and characters like OG Naruto and other sorts of "golden retriever" type characters (that are actually well-written) is that they have their own struggles that serve to ground them, Naruto is the way he is because he seeks attention and approval from *someone*, because he's all alone and shunned by the village. In that sense, the way he is is justified.
    Damn you're right, I totally forgot that aspect of Naruto.

    She's Naruto minus the obvious attention-seeker side (that is warranted since Naruto was discarded and botherline hated by the village).

    So an annoying kid that got everything they want and clings to their new friends whilst wanting to be the main character in every situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Damn you're right, I totally forgot that aspect of Naruto.

    She's Naruto minus the obvious attention-seeker side (that is warranted since Naruto was discarded and botherline hated by the village).

    So an annoying kid that got everything they want and clings to their new friends whilst wanting to be the main character in every situation.
    Fantasy trust fund brat. :'D
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Damn you're right, I totally forgot that aspect of Naruto.

    She's Naruto minus the obvious attention-seeker side (that is warranted since Naruto was discarded and botherline hated by the village).

    So an annoying kid that got everything they want and clings to their new friends whilst wanting to be the main character in every situation.
    I wouldn't quite say that, I'd compare her more to an AI chatbot who's only programmed to say certain things/act a certain way and is predisposed to respond to situations in very predictable ways. Wuk has character traits that make her seem human enough but when something unpredictable or outside of her usual programming happens (Like new information that she's never heard before about the WoL and Scions' adventures) instead of being curious and asking about it, she instead ignores it and finds something else to talk about so she can stay in her parameters.

    Wuk doesn't feel like an actual person because she lacks any deeper levels of emotion besides the surface-level stuff she spouts. She actually feels like she runs on ChatGPT or some sort of AI chatbot software.
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    Watching forum drama be like

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    Wuk is like Naruto if the person writing her character saw clips of Naruto but had no context for what they were seeing.

    As Dogempire points out there's a reason for how Naruto is the way he is.

    At the start of the series, we learn Naruto is an orphan shunned by the entire village because he has a demon fox inside of him (which ravaged the village). The kids of said adults, by proxy, all grow to keep their distance from him.

    So he acts out, he is the class clown because he seeks attention, any attention, good or bad.

    He acts tough and sure of himself but you get candid glimpses of him when he's alone that its mostly a facade. When the parents of his class mates come to pick them up he sits alone, on a swing, watching. The expression on his face tells you all you need to know about his pain.

    So when he finally begins to make bonds (his teacher Iruka first) and friends (Sasuke and Sakura) he cherishes these bonds beyond anything else.

    He is a loud mouth true and through though, but he stumbles, he fails, he gets picked up and learns lessons and grows. He sees people die. He sees those who are stronger than him and he questions if he will become like them (cold, isolated, alone) if he too becomes strong. He watches as he can do nothing to stop his friend leave to gain power for his own goals. He feels like a failure and wants to do everything he can to not be a failure any longer and protect those around him.

    All these goals make sense for his character and it all plays out perfectly culminating in a wonderful character arc that makes sense.

    Wuk has none of these aspects to her and that's why she's so insufferable. She never stumbles, never learns, never grows. She's boring and one dimensional because of it.
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    Wuk Lamats Character development: "Oh no, somebody can see i get seasick, but side from that i get powers out of nowhere and can break through a...i dont know...AI Wall and can Talk no Jutsu a Computer to change his mind."

    Worst character ever written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    Fantasy trust fund brat. :'D
    I kind of pushed it out of my mind in the moment, but now it's coming back to me, didn't she even have a line telling Bakool Ja Ja off for thinking he deserves the throne because of his birth? Or maybe it was another character on Wuk Lamat's or Koana's side, but boy, in retrospect I was giving the writing so much slack in the first half, because what I do remember is that the line was said completely unironically and without challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyndina View Post
    Wuk Lamats Character development: "Oh no, somebody can see i get seasick, but side from that i get powers out of nowhere and can break through a...i dont know...AI Wall and can Talk no Jutsu a Computer to change his mind."

    Worst character ever written.
    That starting scene where she staggers out on to the deck and hurls during the storm, THEN GETS PRAISED BEYOND EVERYONE ELSE, really just set the tone.
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    Pretty much everyone does that's been well established now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I'm still thinkin about how that one guy knew that the Hanu's crops were failing because the float was broken and the parade wasn't being done correctly, and instead of telling them directly so they don't starve to death he just sat on that information just so that revelation could potentially be apart of this vanity competition for the tuliyollan royalty.
    What's even more appalling is that there was not one Hanu that knew this information either. A festival that you hold every year and you don't know? The writing was terrible on so many levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    I kind of pushed it out of my mind in the moment, but now it's coming back to me, didn't she even have a line telling Bakool Ja Ja off for thinking he deserves the throne because of his birth? Or maybe it was another character on Wuk Lamat's or Koana's side, but boy, in retrospect I was giving the writing so much slack in the first half, because what I do remember is that the line was said completely unironically and without challenge.
    Yep, she does, right at the start when Bakool Ja Ja says that he should get the throne since he's two-headed.
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