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    Yes I enjoyed a lot of the same things, I found it easybto criticize some of the Succession Rite, I personally felt like the player has zero agency in who they support. IMO Wuk-Lamat grew in a time frame that is just very unrealistic, and they moet definitely should have expanded on the education and life these adopted children had. Like how Zoraal Ja came out a seething psychopath when all we've heard the worst of was some tough warrior training. It felt rushed, I agree. I'm letting this expac cook like ARR did to see if it gets better during patches. I believe based on final cutscenes that there are questions we will get answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathNoodles View Post
    Yes I enjoyed a lot of the same things, I found it easybto criticize some of the Succession Rite, I personally felt like the player has zero agency in who they support. IMO Wuk-Lamat grew in a time frame that is just very unrealistic, and they moet definitely should have expanded on the education and life these adopted children had. Like how Zoraal Ja came out a seething psychopath when all we've heard the worst of was some tough warrior training. It felt rushed, I agree. I'm letting this expac cook like ARR did to see if it gets better during patches. I believe based on final cutscenes that there are questions we will get answered.
    Maybe I phrased things in a way they can be misunderstood, English is not my first language and it was 2 am in the morning right after a challenging fight. I apologize if I caused some confusion. Because by what you write, I don't have the feeling you enjoyed the lot of the same things I did, quite the opposite. At no point did I say I felt like it was rushed or shallow. Although I would have appreciated more time to get to know Zoraal Ja during the Succession Trials, maybe by being paired in the cooking contest or so, I am fine with the concept and Wuk Lamat's character development. The whole first half was an exposition to the peoples in Tuliyolal and meeting them together with her was a great opportunity to learn about them without being an obnoxious respectless tourist or a walking White Saviour trope.

    That's why I hate it even more how a few single moments in the middle of the game and near the end at crucial moments ruined this story for me, because without these scenes I would have enjoyed it a great deal from the beginning to the end. If anything I would consider it a bit too compressed, like they would have tried to put to many different things into the plot to appeal to many different audiences. Tying it up to one character who isn't the perfect woman was sadly bount to cause tension, going by the experience with Stormblood. (And don't come at me with "it's not sexism at all, you are diminishing other people's feedback about a shallow character", because going by characteristics she'd be a mirror to Estinien and people love him no matter how much he says himself he has no clue of what is actually happen in the MSQ as long as he can hit things.) But as said, personally I liked her very much and I enjoy stories where it's not just about praising our WoL into oblivion and letting us solve every problem of the planet singlehandedly. Several expansions have done exactly that and Dawntrail wasn't even short on acknowledging this either, we simply weren't the main person in the spotlight and that's fine by me, especially after we have been the fabled hero for two whole expansions + patch MSQ.

    So if your criticism is not about specific big moments throughout the game about that specific kind of storytelling I described in my post, please voice it in one of the other threads way more suitable to this, there are plenty of others around. I am not saying your criticism isn't valid or anything and you shouldn't state it, mind you. This thread is simply not the correct place for it.
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