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    [Dawntrail] Request: Let us enjoy Map 6's beauty while post-gaming. T_T

    I know it's for story reasons that it does what it does, but when we've finished the MSQ and want to gather/farm fates/treasure hunt/etc., simply having something pretty to look at would be... so much better.

    Sadly I know some weather dependent fishes/etc. wouldn't allow this, but is there some way we could do this without NG+? Please?
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    Ka-Lian'Tu-Sa on Tonberry, we're always looking for new folk to join!
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/291312

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    Lets summon Godbert and turn the place into the New World Gold Saucer!
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    Personally, I think zone 6 is at its best in its postgame state. I would despise reverting it.

    It's a dead world, manifested as, essentially, a closed theme park. The lights are off, the stalls are closed. This land, once full of life, joy and activity, has just... fallen silent. Its musical theme is distant and faded. Everyone's gone... but the place they loved and lived in still remains. When we first entered, it was a theme park for ghosts; now, the theme park is a ghost, too.

    I find that far more beautiful than when the lights were on.
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    I'm of the same mind to leave Zone 6 be post MSQ. Though
    the stinger ending implies we may not be done with that area yet.


    Still a little confused if it's a
    different reflection than what we saw merged with zone 5, or the same reflection just pre-lightning calamity.
    Sounds like it's the latter.

    Now that we have our
    little world hopping McGuffin
    I think this may be how the FFXI raid series may start. We have until probably late Oct or early Nov I'd imagine before 7.1 drops to know more.
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    Giving players the option is always the best choice. There's a lot of GPosing to be done in that zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyChariot View Post
    Giving players the option is always the best choice. There's a lot of GPosing to be done in that zone.
    For Gposing using NG+ works just fine. Any NG+ from base game or any former expansion puts the map in its initial state, so you can use that for screenshots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    For Gposing using NG+ works just fine. Any NG+ from base game or any former expansion puts the map in its initial state, so you can use that for screenshots.
    And honestly, I think anything more than this would hurt the story in this case.

    It's not like the fairly common request to be able to set the Ultima Thule themes, which ultimately manipulates our interaction with the zone more than anything else; zone 6's physical state is explicitly connected to our actions in the MSQ, it is the way it is afterwards because of what happened. Even having the option to revert it feels like it would cheapen the impact of what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    Still a little confused if it's a
    different reflection than what we saw merged with zone 5, or the same reflection just pre-lightning calamity.
    Sounds like it's the latter.
    We know about that
    it's the same that was merged with Zone 5 since Living Memory is the 12th level of Everkeep. It's a plot point saying Sphene retreated to her home reflection. And there's no lightning calamity involved, it's another shard and not one that has been merged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    We know about that
    it's the same that was merged with Zone 5 since Living Memory is the 12th level of Everkeep. It's a plot point saying Sphene retreated to her home reflection. And there's no lightning calamity involved, it's another shard and not one that has been merged.
    We actually don’t know that, Alexandria has been under the barrier since a “lightning calamity” with originally all 12 levels of the everkeep existing within whatever shard living memory is currently in

    Alexandria (at least the everkeep) could actually be a tiny tiny fraction of the 12th that managed to survive the 2nd umbral calamity as the lightning war that caused Alexandria to put up the barrier fits the bill of a lightning calamity perfectly
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    We actually don’t know that, Alexandria has been under the barrier since a “lightning calamity” with originally all 12 levels of the everkeep existing within whatever shard living memory is currently in

    Alexandria (at least the everkeep) could actually be a tiny tiny fraction of the 12th that managed to survive the 2nd umbral calamity as the lightning war that caused Alexandria to put up the barrier fits the bill of a lightning calamity perfectly
    Except that, because Living Memory is there, the shard must remain.

    I think you're going brutally 'square peg round hole' here. Insisting that it must be this fallen shard, despite all evidence to the contrary.
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