I get that but they not nerfing picto. They will bring blm up and that’s it. Picto is designed exactly how they wanted it. Their AoE is really good but they’re single target. It all sorta levels out well.
I don't think Picto should be doing more than SAM/BLM/VPR. But I also don't think it should be as low as SMN. I think it should be somewhat comparable to MNK, which has a nearly identical party buff and defensive/heal boosting utilities. I'd honestly prefer if they removed or nerfed the healing from Star Prism. Hardly anyone is going to save it to heal when it matters, so it seems fairly pointless to me and makes balancing more difficult.
Agree with pretty much all of this. It should be on par with all melee DPS with utility. BLM, SAM and now VPR should deal top personal damage with PCT, RPR, MNK, DRG just below before you factor in their damage buffs.I don't think Picto should be doing more than SAM/BLM/VPR. But I also don't think it should be as low as SMN. I think it should be somewhat comparable to MNK, which has a nearly identical party buff and defensive/heal boosting utilities. I'd honestly prefer if they removed or nerfed the healing from Star Prism. Hardly anyone is going to save it to heal when it matters, so it seems fairly pointless to me and makes balancing more difficult.
I also agree about Star Prism. I love the flavor of the added healing, but it’s pointless. Just something for people to complain that PCT should deal less damage because it has “more” utility.
I’d rather see BLM buffed than PCT nerfed. As for Star Prism, at least there’s a little more flexibility as to when it can be used. SMN got Lux Solaris, which is pretty much use it or lose it, and it never seems really needed when it’s up. At least PCT’s Star Prism does damage too!Agree with pretty much all of this. It should be on par with all melee DPS with utility. BLM, SAM and now VPR should deal top personal damage with PCT, RPR, MNK, DRG just below before you factor in their damage buffs.
I also agree about Star Prism. I love the flavor of the added healing, but it’s pointless. Just something for people to complain that PCT should deal less damage because it has “more” utility.
I think this is good advice considering how this team sometimes reacts to feedback. It's not that PCT needs to nerfed into oblivion (if at all) as much as other jobs may need be buffed. BLM in particular has problems that extend beyond potency as well.The point is that if picto is too far behind BLM, then there isn't much point in bringing a picto. It's a pretty selfish caster DPS very similar in playstyle to BLM. It has a raid buff, a 10% party mit, and a minor heal of 400 potency that requires some setup. The job's primary role is first and foremost being a damage dealer, with a little bit of support added in. And the support abilities have a fairly long recast. Picto isn't capable of doing sustained healing, nor does it have a rez. So it should ideally be sitting a little bit below blm in power, but not too far. And let's just acknowledge that BLM is kinda F-d right now. Before making any major changes elsewhere they need to fix what they did to BLM. I'm sorely disappointed with the BLM changes in Dawntrail. This is the first expansion I've ever played where blm doesn't feel fun to play. That's a far bigger issue. Fix blm first, and lower pictos potencies a little bit. No need to break out the sledgehammer just to crack some peanuts.
With all due respect to everyone's opinion in here people should be cautious of what they asking when it comes to class balance. Asking to nerf a job , just because their job underperformed is not the right way.If you are dissatisfied with your job ask to make it better not remove the quality of life kit of another job. Look what we managed so far with our qqing (smr/smn/ast/ninja/mnk/blm/ I.e.) and now viper is nerfed for what purpose exactly...we ask for unique identity and fun jobs to play from devs and when they give us pictomancer which is exactly that then we tell them to nerf it and it's op... I wish S.E. Just didn't read these forums honestly...
Really all they have to do is just prevent Aetherhues from being removed so that Job Flow becomes standardized, since currently you can remove those buffs and instead run Comet in Black for more damage - that's where PCT's damage is coming from during buffs after Starstruck and Mog of Ages since they burn gauge just for that. In general I just think that PCT should be 2nd in the Caster category - but not treading upon Melee DPS given the utilities it has(not including the heal that's just a given on the 2m window).
It’s has roughly the same utility as MNK or RPR why shouldn’t it contend with the meleeReally all they have to do is just prevent Aetherhues from being removed so that Job Flow becomes standardized, since currently you can remove those buffs and instead run Comet in Black for more damage - that's where PCT's damage is coming from during buffs after Starstruck and Mog of Ages since they burn gauge just for that. In general I just think that PCT should be 2nd in the Caster category - but not treading upon Melee DPS given the utilities it has(not including the heal that's just a given on the 2m window).
It needs to be viable for the 4th slot if it wants to have a place otherwise it doesn’t have a niche
As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.
I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess
Range should never do more damage than melee except BLM smh
If it doesn't at least do MNK or RPR numbers then no one will ever want it in a party. If it does near smn/rdm dps it has to compete with those jobs for the caster spot and no one will ever want a non rez caster for the caster spot. Picto is in the same spot as blm, it is competing for the 4th spot(the flex spot) in every party. This is why I have always said that caster role is one of the worst balance roles in the game bc rdm and smn are always going to be auto picked over any other caster who doesn't have a rez.Really all they have to do is just prevent Aetherhues from being removed so that Job Flow becomes standardized, since currently you can remove those buffs and instead run Comet in Black for more damage - that's where PCT's damage is coming from during buffs after Starstruck and Mog of Ages since they burn gauge just for that. In general I just think that PCT should be 2nd in the Caster category - but not treading upon Melee DPS given the utilities it has(not including the heal that's just a given on the 2m window).
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