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  1. #311
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Personally I think PIC's damage right now is fine.
    It is a very burst heavy job which benefits a lot from raid buffs, I haven't looked at the high parse score party set ups but I wouldn't be suprised if it was a raid buff heavy party. PCT filler is honestly pretty weak and rigid, I have only cleared M1S rn and I have to say during prog if I didn't do my burst perfectly my damage would drop down pretty fast. I don't really think PCT needs a nerf at all, its a lot like a ranged RPR or MNK, all 3 have great utility and buffs and most of their damage comes from their burst. I think the main reason BLM is suffering is because it just isn't a very good burst job so in comparison to PCT when you see those periods of insane damage it may look overtuned. Again I think its literally just the 2 minute meta plague thats causing the balance to become scuffed, its the reason why BRD and BLM both have seemingly awful damage, they aren't burst jobs but they're being forced to be them.
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  2. #312
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    Halua Mindspa
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Is BLM damage that awful? Seems fine looking at a/nDPS at least.
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  3. #313
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    Tunda King
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    BLM feels horrible because of picto..
    I just leveled my Picto to 100..

    My picto already do more damage than my BLM even I am just picking the job with no raid buffs

    Numbers are too high with 1.5 cast time which is dumb idea by balance team.

    Why bothering playing BLM?

    job feels so punishing for 0 reward

    picto broke the game already

    I didn't even mention the party utility that Picto can provide..

    it is just a dumb idea to release the job without testing
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  4. #314
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    My picto already do more damage than my BLM even I am just picking the job with no raid buffs
    This isn't really support by available statistics.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62#dpstype=pdps
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62#dpstype=ndps

    If you do more damage with PCT, could be you're a much better PCT player then a BLM player? Or do you mean AoE damage (so dungeons), then I agree PCT AoE seems a bit overtuned for AoE damage.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 08-04-2024 at 05:33 AM.

  5. #315
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    This isn't really support by available statistics.
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62#dpstype=pdps
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/62#dpstype=ndps

    If you do more damage with PCT, could be you're a much better PCT player then a BLM player? Or do you mean AoE damage (so dungeons), then I agree PCT AoE seems a bit overtuned for AoE damage.
    lol i play BLM 3 expansions at the highest level..

    I know different openers perform at perfect uptime

    I just got to M1 savage dummy.

    I did the same what I did but still Picto do more damage even when the gear is same.

    PCT has more burst,
    PCT has more utility,
    PCT has more mobility,
    PCT do more damage, and I don't believe your statistic website

    BLM is in the worst state ever been not only because of PCT but changes are so bad
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  6. #316
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    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post

    PCT has more burst,
    PCT has more utility,
    PCT has more mobility,
    PCT do more damage, and I don't believe your statistic website
    You don’t have to like it, but those stats are legit.
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  7. #317
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    BLM feels horrible because of picto..
    I just leveled my Picto to 100..

    My picto already do more damage than my BLM even I am just picking the job with no raid buffs

    Numbers are too high with 1.5 cast time which is dumb idea by balance team.

    Why bothering playing BLM?

    job feels so punishing for 0 reward

    picto broke the game already

    I didn't even mention the party utility that Picto can provide..

    it is just a dumb idea to release the job without testing
    I think most of us agree that BLM is still in need of a lot of help and needs a buff but nerfing Picto isn't going to help BLM. Nerfing Picto will only hurt Picto bc if it gets nerfed to be below melee damage then Picto will never have a spot in a party. Picto and BLM both never will be considered for the caster spot because they don't have rez. The only spot on a team these two will have is the flex spot. A rez is the only party unititly ppl in this community care about when it comes to casters. Trust me I know because I have been asked by a lot of groups to switch to a smn(a job I hate now) just bc we needed a rez mage.
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  8. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    I think most of us agree that BLM is still in need of a lot of help and needs a buff but nerfing Picto isn't going to help BLM. Nerfing Picto will only hurt Picto bc if it gets nerfed to be below melee damage then Picto will never have a spot in a party. Picto and BLM both never will be considered for the caster spot because they don't have rez. The only spot on a team these two will have is the flex spot. A rez is the only party unititly ppl in this community care about when it comes to casters. Trust me I know because I have been asked by a lot of groups to switch to a smn(a job I hate now) just bc we needed a rez mage.
    I didn't mention that PCT needs a nerf..

    No but it needs to be caster you know? 2.5 sec like BLM

    why someone would play BLM when you got job that is more mobile do more damage and more utility?

    BLM dmg buff won't hide mobility point either.
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  9. #319
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    MrJPtheAssassin's Avatar
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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    I didn't mention that PCT needs a nerf..

    No but it needs to be caster you know? 2.5 sec like BLM

    why someone would play BLM when you got job that is more mobile do more damage and more utility?

    BLM dmg buff won't hide mobility point either.
    Because they enjoy BLM? Again most of us believe BLM damage needs a buff. I think BLM should be doing sam DPS but I also think Picto should be doing DPS equal to melee jobs that have the same utility. Picto should be on par with rpr/nin/drg/mnk. If you not asking for picto to be nerfed then what are you asking for? They not going to charge its casting numbers. The only thing devs will do is nerf its numbers and if they do that we be in a situation of "Why bother playing Picto when you can play SMN/Rdm. They have a lot better movement, and a rez"
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  10. #320
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by nalgene View Post
    Is BLM damage that awful? Seems fine looking at a/nDPS at least.
    Sadly nDPS doesn't matter that much in the game right now compared to rDPS/aDPS, if nDPS was as important as rDPS/aDPS then machinist would be killing it right now. Due to how burst focused the entire game is right now sadly that isn't happening.
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    Last edited by Ramiee; 08-04-2024 at 07:13 AM.

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