Pictomancer is insanely overtuned and needs to be fixed before savage drops.

[Zarkovitch]

Picto is too much efficient than is other job who fit the role of selfish with a bit utility. We are are going back duo caster meta of SHB and that's bad.

[Supersnow845]

Picto is too much efficient than is other job who fit the role of selfish with a bit utility. We are are going back duo caster meta of SHB and that's bad.

Why is double caster bad, what is so wrong with PCT being top DPS and being paired with a rezz caster during prog

[CKNovel]

Why is double caster bad, what is so wrong with PCT being top DPS and being paired with a rezz caster during prog

Double caster isn't bad, the problem is that you can just have a PCT instead of a VPR/SAM and only gain DPS + raidwide utility.
PLD and MCH proved that extra utility can bring a lot to the table.

The problem isn't a double caster meta, the problem is why we are heading to a double caster meta and why it'll specifically have a PCT.

[Supersnow845]

Double caster isn't bad, the problem is that you can just have a PCT instead of a VPR/SAM and only gain DPS + raidwide utility.
PLD and MCH proved that extra utility can bring a lot to the table.

The problem isn't a double caster meta, the problem is why we are heading to a double caster meta and why it'll specifically have a PCT.

If you replace a SAM with a PCT you gain 1% cDPS at 95 and up or lose DPS at below 95 and you trade a party shield for stronger personal survivability. That’s not going to enforce a double caster meta because there is no reason why PCT couldn’t just take up only the default caster slot. And if it allows for more “1 melee 1 ranged, 1 rezz caster 1 selfish caster” as an alternative to 2/1/1 that’s not a bad thing

And I’m not sure how MCH proved that at all, disassemble is a pity addition because the job was straight up being locked out of PF for its low damage. PLD is more just “we’ve long since accepted the devs refuse to make PLD’s damage good”

[CKNovel]

If you replace a SAM with a PCT you gain 1% cDPS at 95 and up or lose DPS at below 95 and you trade a party shield for stronger personal survivability. That’s not going to enforce a double caster meta because there is no reason why PCT couldn’t just take up only the default caster slot. And if it allows for more “1 melee 1 ranged, 1 rezz caster 1 selfish caster” as an alternative to 2/1/1 that’s not a bad thing

And I’m not sure how MCH proved that at all, disassemble is a pity addition because the job was straight up being locked out of PF for its low damage. PLD is more just “we’ve long since accepted the devs refuse to make PLD’s damage good”

As I've said, the problem is the "Why":
The closer you are to ultimate/week 1 savage the more extra mitigation/DPS gains value as comfort. More mitigation might result in a healer DPS increase. And of course, w1/ultimate player often know how to reach a 95.
PLD and MCH extra mitigations were extremely valuable in TOP, mitigation planned would go from a puzzle to a breeze. MCH was only locked out of PF in Abyssos Savage but its popularity surged in 6.3 after the addition of "dismantle". PCT is similar but without the MCH poor DPS.

Even on the "casual savage" side, it will be a massive comfort to have 2 caster and 1 melee.

[CaedemSanguis]

Why is double caster bad, what is so wrong with PCT being top DPS and being paired with a rezz caster during prog

it's bad since a lot of groups have 2 omni melees, so hard to go for a double caster comp in week1/hc prog

but I guess it's not the end of the world if you go rdm for m1s-m3s and then pct for m4s

[ShadowNyx3]

it's bad since a lot of groups have 2 omni melees, so hard to go for a double caster comp in week1/hc prog

but I guess it's not the end of the world if you go rdm for m1s-m3s and then pct for m4s

Sounds like a problem for the players to solve, not the developers.

[CaedemSanguis]

Sounds like a problem for the players to solve, not the developers.

it only concerns a small proportion of the playerbase + you can still run rdm for m1s-m3s and pct for m4s with double melee

but another issue is if they are way more melee player than casters, it's a problem if the optimal comp si double caster + single melee

[Supersnow845]

it only concerns a small proportion of the playerbase + you can still run rdm for m1s-m3s and pct for m4s with double melee

but another issue is if they are way more melee player than casters, it's a problem if the optimal comp si double caster + single melee

Except there is nothing about PCT that is going to enforce a double caster comp I have no idea where you guys are getting this idea

PCT is only ahead above 95 and even at max the amount it does above the 2nd job doesn’t justify hard locking a spot to it

All PCT’s current damage position does is open the 4th slot to a caster as long as that caster is either PCT or BLM (once it get buffed), that doesn’t change that the 4th slot can also just as easily be filled with a melee. Melee will still be prioritised for that slot in comps that prefer safety as melee have more health so the tanks only need to protect one caster, and melees damage profile is more consistent than the damage casters

There is no creation of a preferred double caster comp it’s just becoming a soft option