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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100

    Pictomancer is insanely overtuned and needs to be fixed before savage drops.

    Topic title.

    I'm not sure how they managed to make a job that by current math is so overtuned that it's a net RDPS gain to just bring another PCT over a lot of the other options (Especially SMN).

    A job that has utility should never, ever be outdpsing a "selfish" job with no raid buffs like BLM as a baseline, but that's unfortunately the case at present.

    The job itself is extremely well-designed; the potencies are just a bit too bloated for everything else it brings.
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    Percibel Theren
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I may be wrong here but I think the patch that brings Savage is also going to bring some balance tweaks.
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Yeah honestly it has way too much utility. To keep it's damage above RDM but below BLM i would make minor adjustments to the utility still.

    Make the shield spread CD 2 minutes even if it breaks. Remove the heal from Star Prism or make it a barrier. Make the raid buff position based so people have to stand in the circle to get the damage buff, this would still make it strong but clearly SMN and RDM utility would be way higher.
    I would for sure want PCT to be at least the second highest damage but there's no way something with this much utility must surpass BLM, it's already been gimped enough with it's rework.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I may be wrong here but I think the patch that brings Savage is also going to bring some balance tweaks.
    5.0 NIN only got fixed two weeks into savage despite having a 2K DPS deficit vs. the other melee, and there were some lesser imbalances throughout EW that likewise didn't actually get addressed until after the savage tier had already released.

    People need to stress the overall imbalances sooner then later to make sure they get the point.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 07-02-2024 at 11:33 AM.

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    Ayaka Lithmos
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    So I've been playing PCT with my VPR main wife since we started on the 28th. Between the two of us.. When I solo a mob, I melt it within maybe 3 or 4 moves, where it takes her much longer. I love the class, obviously, as I'm maining it.. but holy shit does it need some serious tweeks. There is no reason I should be doing SO MUCH DAMAGE compared to EVERYTHING else. Her, being a SMN main prior, watching me is like doing her Bahamut rotation, she says the burst reminds her of SMN so much. xD I'm a walking support with SMN DMG. Hahah
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    I agree. This is like giving Viper a party heal and higher DPS than SAM. I get it that they want people try new jobs, but big numbers aren't the only reason people play jobs.

    I don't even know why it's ever a conversation. If selfish dps just become selfish, that's problematic for the job. Why would you play a job that's just selfish???
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 07-02-2024 at 01:31 PM.

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    Palladiamors's Avatar
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    Ishimar Furial
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 93
    That's probably purposeful, to attract more people to the job. It's a pretty common tactic. Then when the nerfs hit people will have sunk time into them and be less willing to change jobs.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Pictomancer remind me what summoner used to be, once you could use two aetherflows during opener, burst was insane, but dps should stabise in the long fight. Winning 12 sec worth of globals before pull or during downtime is insanely good.
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    Last edited by Sunako; 07-02-2024 at 10:05 PM.

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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 91
    To me it crazy Picto can do so much damage, with utility and a fluid rotation that really forgiving if you drop it.
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    Maric Ward
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Wasnt the same with the reaper?
    Was in 6.0 overpowerd or at last very strong.
    And was than undertuned?

    Its very likely, that the numbers will change. Probably to 7.1.
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