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    Dear Nocturne
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    Seraph
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    White Mage Lv 100

    [Graphic Update] Miqo'te ♀ Face 3 Feedback

    Miqo'te ♀ Face 3, eyes 6, Lip 2



    Eyes
    1. light has been added to the pupils, but it actually makes the eyes look darker than before the update.
    2. moles look very unnatural. It looks like it was done with a Photoshop brush
    3. eyelashes look full and stuffy, and the overall shape of the eyes seems to have changed.

    Lip
    1. w-shaped lip line that seemed to represent a cat's mouth has become a straight line



    2. the lip line is overly defined and looks very awkward (similar to the darkest lip color before the update)
    3. the upper lip is thinner while the lower lip is thicker, resulting in a strange proportion
    4. too much shading at the corner of my mouth, making me look very angry
    5. matte lips could be achieved when Lip color was selected as None, which is not possible after the update

    Nothing has changed from the benchmarks, and you should know that while there are definitely people who love the updated characters, there are definitely people who hate them.
    In particular, I don't think Miqo'te #3's face has any of the old model left.

    I'm in no way criticizing the graphical update itself, I think the changed cities and forests are really beautiful.
    However, I don't want to lose the old character modeling - it was too painful to see my character's face as I progressed through the main quest.
    If you can't change it back, please make it possible to turn the graphics update ON/OFF.
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    Last edited by owov; 07-04-2024 at 03:56 AM.

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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Some more examples over here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erika23 View Post
    First of all, a very big thank you to the entire development team for all the hard work and effort they are putting into this! I appreciate the dedication and attention to detail.

    Regarding the specific feedback on Female Miqo'te, Face #3, Eye #3, Mouth #4, I've tried to make my comments as clear and constructive as possible in the hopes that they will be useful.

    Overall impression on the new benchmark

    I think the new benchmark is a big improvement, the lighting is much better, the colors are more vibrant, and the facial details are much more defined. I think a few small tweaks to some details and some adjustments to the shadows would improve it even more.



    https://imgur.com/a/slAljby

    Female Miqo'te Face #3 + Eye #3



    https://imgur.com/a/jKTCOfJ

    Eye Shape: The shape of the eye in the new version appears more rounded above, giving the impression that the character is keeping their eyes wide open. In the original graphic, the eye had a more relaxed and focused expression.

    Lash Length Variation: In the original graphic, the upper lashes were shorter near the inner corner of the eye and became longer near the outer corner. In the new version, the upper lashes are more even, with the lashes being slightly longer near the inner corner and shorter toward the outer corner. I think that this change in lash length variation contributes to the strange expression in the new version.

    Upper lashes meet the skin: In the original graphic, the black line where the upper lashes meet the skin is thicker, creating a smooth gradient effect. In contrast, the new version shows a sharp transition between the upper lashes and the upper lid, resulting in a distinct thin black line. IMPORTANT: This issue is not present in the first benchmark (1.0), where the upper lashes correctly meet the skin, achieving the intended effect perfectly in my opinion.

    Eyelid Shape: The inner part of the eyelids (skin that forms the eye socket) appears significantly thicker in the new version. This increased thickness sometimes fails to follow the natural shape of the eye (maybe the eyeball model was positioned slightly more inward than before?) As a result, the eye appears slightly smaller in the new version. Additionally, this altered shape creates a strange effect when viewed from certain angles.

    Overall Expression: The cumulative changes to the eyelid thickness, lash color, and lash length variation give the impression that the character in the new version is keeping their eyes wide open. In contrast, she has a more relaxed and focused expression in the original graphics.
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