This game is just not what it used to be.

[Kes13a]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

A lot of my super casual friends quit during Endwalker's patches because things are so basic. Even the ones that remained are logging in less and less, and only seem to do so for friends.

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

[Turtledeluxe]

A lot of my super casual friends quit during Endwalker's patches because things are so basic. Even the ones that remained are logging in less and less, and only seem to do so for friends.

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

I plan to unsub as soon as I finish msq for these reasons. Favorite job is basically ruined, story leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the patch content will be good. I'll resub at some point and do it all at once. I'm not going to keep paying these devs for these results.

And if Yoshi P expects people to just grind Ultimate, he can also expect to lose 75% of the original revenue he made from me and anyone else who feels like I do.

I'd go so far as to say if you play this game for jobs, combat, questing or story at this point, it comes across as a free to play to game.

[Cylla]

I plan to unsub as soon as I finish msq for these reasons. Favorite job is basically ruined, story leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the patch content will be good. I'll resub at some point and do it all at once. I'm not going to keep paying these devs for these results.

And if Yoshi P expects people to just grind Ultimate, he can also expect to lose 75% of the original revenue he made from me and anyone else who feels like I do.

I'm in the same boat as you.
Wanted to quit back during the end of EW but decided to give DT a chance. I'm regretting it big time.
I'll more then likely unsub as well. For me, I'm just tired of the same old repeated dumbdown formula. It never changes. It's boring as all heck.
The MSQ for DT also...I've gotten to points where I just hit the skip. I feel nothing towards the story or the NPC's.

[bitterhorn]

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

Yeah, I'm in the 2nd camp. Letting my sub lapse in a few days. This just isn't fun, and it's too bad I preordered just to finally call it quits right after early access but sunk cost fallacy is fallacious.

[Isala]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

They're catering to what they believe the "casual playerbase" is, being told "WE'RE REALLY NOT THAT STUPID!" by said casual playerbase, and are still pumping out some of the absolute worst class design I've seen in two decades of MMOs.