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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    No content except Extreme/Savage/Ultimate has been interesting (skill wise) since way back when in Stormblood.

    More news at 11. :'D
    They could design the combat for people who like to use their brain. It's all homogeneous and balanced anyway. And if it's too hard, use Trusts or have it set to very easy in the options menu. It shouldn't be the other way around where I'm fighting almost naked to feel challenged. A game is supposed to entertain in the gameplay department, too, and not just at endgame.

    We need more options. Tweak numbers. That way people can choose. Everyone wins. lol
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    We need more options. Tweak numbers. That way people can choose. Everyone wins. lol
    This is a multiplayer game. What will happen is that there are more rewards for the harder modes (so you even get people to play with) then a lot of people that are not suitable to these modes will try to flock to it, given both groups a bad time.

    Been there, done that. Outside of organized raiding, such options do not work.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    This is a multiplayer game. What will happen is that there are more rewards for the harder modes (so you even get people to play with) then a lot of people that are not suitable to these modes will try to flock to it, given both groups a bad time.

    Been there, done that. Outside of organized raiding, such options do not work.
    I hate to say it but I agree, entitlement is a real thing these days. "we cant earn it but we deserve it anyway" kind of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    This is a multiplayer game. What will happen is that there are more rewards for the harder modes (so you even get people to play with) then a lot of people that are not suitable to these modes will try to flock to it, given both groups a bad time.

    Been there, done that. Outside of organized raiding, such options do not work.
    Then the designers just shouldn't listen. As far as I'm aware PvP doesn't cave in either. That being said, I'm also talking about solo duties and everything that doesn't involve a group as well. I just want something stimulating to do that isn't 1 2 ... and the mob is dead. For me it's immersion breaking on top of being boring.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.
    Yeah, I'm in the 2nd camp. Letting my sub lapse in a few days. This just isn't fun, and it's too bad I preordered just to finally call it quits right after early access but sunk cost fallacy is fallacious.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotlizard View Post
    This game is so dumbed down feels like Habbo Hotel with GCDs now.

    I reeaaaaaaallyyyy don't like how sqenix pandered to the casual playerbase for this expansion. It's like they had a boardroom meeting and asked themselves the question, "who are the biggest whales?" and one higher up said "oh! It's the fantasia addict miqotes and lalas clogging up every player hub. You know, the ones with the worst adventurer plates known to mankind". So on they went using Fisher-Price design philosophy to update all the classes for dawntrail. You wanted to play dark knight? Too bad! Living Shadow is now recommended for ages 3 and up, and Blood Weapon was intended only for mature audiences. Viewer discretion advised, so we baked that into delirium. Now use that keybind you just freed up to /bread!!! Someone needs to do a case study on how MMOs went from the type of rewarding, cutting-edge challenging content that was in Heavensward and Stormblood, to the monthly subscription to social media we have today.
    Bro is big mad. You do realize most people who want to piss and moan about the MSQ and setting are actually in agreement that the encounters and duties are actually fun and some of the best they've been for a new expac? The fuck you talkin' bout dumbing down?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotlizard View Post
    This game is so dumbed down feels like Habbo Hotel with GCDs now.

    I reeaaaaaaallyyyy don't like how sqenix pandered to the casual playerbase for this expansion. It's like they had a boardroom meeting and asked themselves the question, "who are the biggest whales?" and one higher up said "oh! It's the fantasia addict miqotes and lalas clogging up every player hub. You know, the ones with the worst adventurer plates known to mankind". So on they went using Fisher-Price design philosophy to update all the classes for dawntrail. You wanted to play dark knight? Too bad! Living Shadow is now recommended for ages 3 and up, and Blood Weapon was intended only for mature audiences. Viewer discretion advised, so we baked that into delirium. Now use that keybind you just freed up to /bread!!! Someone needs to do a case study on how MMOs went from the type of rewarding, cutting-edge challenging content that was in Heavensward and Stormblood, to the monthly subscription to social media we have today.
    It's just a game. Just play another game that you like more.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

    many casual also dislike the dumbing down.
    They're catering to what they believe the "casual playerbase" is, being told "WE'RE REALLY NOT THAT STUPID!" by said casual playerbase, and are still pumping out some of the absolute worst class design I've seen in two decades of MMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bready View Post
    Honestly it was a great marketing move for Squeenix to get rid of Blood Weapon and put it into Delirium instead. They gotta keep the game rated T somehow so that they can market it to as wide an audience as possible, and having 'blood' in the name of an ability isn't doing them any favors. Maybe getting rid of little things like that is going to change the game eventually into something that it didn't use to be, but personally I'm happy as long as I get to simp over elezens.
    well i guess they gotta rate it M now since bloodbath still exists
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  10. #20
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    They've been casualizing the game since SB, they're just finding new ways to do it.
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