This game is just not what it used to be.

[lotlizard]

This game is so dumbed down feels like Habbo Hotel with GCDs now.

I reeaaaaaaallyyyy don't like how sqenix pandered to the casual playerbase for this expansion. It's like they had a boardroom meeting and asked themselves the question, "who are the biggest whales?" and one higher up said "oh! It's the fantasia addict miqotes and lalas clogging up every player hub. You know, the ones with the worst adventurer plates known to mankind". So on they went using Fisher-Price design philosophy to update all the classes for dawntrail. You wanted to play dark knight? Too bad! Living Shadow is now recommended for ages 3 and up, and Blood Weapon was intended only for mature audiences. Viewer discretion advised, so we baked that into delirium. Now use that keybind you just freed up to /bread!!! Someone needs to do a case study on how MMOs went from the type of rewarding, cutting-edge challenging content that was in Heavensward and Stormblood, to the monthly subscription to social media we have today.

[Kes13a]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

A lot of my super casual friends quit during Endwalker's patches because things are so basic. Even the ones that remained are logging in less and less, and only seem to do so for friends.

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

[Turtledeluxe]

A lot of my super casual friends quit during Endwalker's patches because things are so basic. Even the ones that remained are logging in less and less, and only seem to do so for friends.

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

I plan to unsub as soon as I finish msq for these reasons. Favorite job is basically ruined, story leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the patch content will be good. I'll resub at some point and do it all at once. I'm not going to keep paying these devs for these results.

And if Yoshi P expects people to just grind Ultimate, he can also expect to lose 75% of the original revenue he made from me and anyone else who feels like I do.

I'd go so far as to say if you play this game for jobs, combat, questing or story at this point, it comes across as a free to play to game.

[Cylla]

I plan to unsub as soon as I finish msq for these reasons. Favorite job is basically ruined, story leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe the patch content will be good. I'll resub at some point and do it all at once. I'm not going to keep paying these devs for these results.

And if Yoshi P expects people to just grind Ultimate, he can also expect to lose 75% of the original revenue he made from me and anyone else who feels like I do.

I'm in the same boat as you.
Wanted to quit back during the end of EW but decided to give DT a chance. I'm regretting it big time.
I'll more then likely unsub as well. For me, I'm just tired of the same old repeated dumbdown formula. It never changes. It's boring as all heck.
The MSQ for DT also...I've gotten to points where I just hit the skip. I feel nothing towards the story or the NPC's.

[bitterhorn]

Not a single person I know has said anything positive about Dawntrail so far, aside from Trials 1 and 3. Everyone is either bored of their job or devastated by having it dumbed down further.

Yeah, I'm in the 2nd camp. Letting my sub lapse in a few days. This just isn't fun, and it's too bad I preordered just to finally call it quits right after early access but sunk cost fallacy is fallacious.

[Isala]

stop using the "casual player base" as a scapegoat. unless you have some facts to back it up, generalizing will not help your argument.

many casual also dislike the dumbing down.

They're catering to what they believe the "casual playerbase" is, being told "WE'RE REALLY NOT THAT STUPID!" by said casual playerbase, and are still pumping out some of the absolute worst class design I've seen in two decades of MMOs.

[Boblawblah]

This game is so dumbed down feels like Habbo Hotel with GCDs now.

I reeaaaaaaallyyyy don't like how sqenix pandered to the casual playerbase for this expansion. It's like they had a boardroom meeting and asked themselves the question, "who are the biggest whales?" and one higher up said "oh! It's the fantasia addict miqotes and lalas clogging up every player hub. You know, the ones with the worst adventurer plates known to mankind". So on they went using Fisher-Price design philosophy to update all the classes for dawntrail. You wanted to play dark knight? Too bad! Living Shadow is now recommended for ages 3 and up, and Blood Weapon was intended only for mature audiences. Viewer discretion advised, so we baked that into delirium. Now use that keybind you just freed up to /bread!!! Someone needs to do a case study on how MMOs went from the type of rewarding, cutting-edge challenging content that was in Heavensward and Stormblood, to the monthly subscription to social media we have today.

I'd say bye, but you're not going anywhere

[Kuroka]

What i feel is REALLY pathetic and doesnt help the whole "game is too easy you dont need healers!" discussion... the Ilvl of EVERYTHING is WAY too low. The 93 dungeon has a 635 minimum. 635??

We enden 6.5 with at least 650-660... so why even? i get they dont wanna start the first one with 650 or even 640 but dam... and the constant gating in dungeons... here are 4 mobs, now you get 4 more, there are the last 3... this is 90-100... NO ONE is new, now one should even get hit by basic aoe.

[Amenara]

What i feel is REALLY pathetic and doesnt help the whole "game is too easy you dont need healers!" discussion... the Ilvl of EVERYTHING is WAY too low. The 93 dungeon has a 635 minimum. 635??

We enden 6.5 with at least 650-660... so why even? i get they dont wanna start the first one with 650 or even 640 but dam... and the constant gating in dungeons... here are 4 mobs, now you get 4 more, there are the last 3... this is 90-100... NO ONE is new, now one should even get hit by basic aoe.

That's how dungeon ilvl always has been though? Your top tier gear from the previous expansion doesn't really get replaced till the 3rd dungeon in the new expansion. I do wish they did something to update the way we run through dungeons or give us another Mt. Gulg with the pull as much as you want, but the bosses have been pretty fun so far for me.