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    Sani2341's Avatar
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    Yo-tsu Amilar
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ToodlesElNoodles View Post
    How often do you guys waste cards? As in, not throw them out?
    A lot. Probably 3-4 per 2min.

    Feels even worse than burning addersgal on sge for MP. At least there I have kerachole to throw a party wide mit for nearly every addersgal stack that comes back of cd. So it does Something beyond 'burn resource for mp and Overheal'. But the utility cards are usualy a waste. In the situations I am out of other oGCDs, shit's usualy to fucked for 2 single target cards to help.
    Bole can be nice if yoz have a Tank in a Dungeon that never learned what mits are, but that's about it ime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So who wants to go tell the god of wisdom and magic and king of the Viking pantheon that his robes aren't manly enough?

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    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ToodlesElNoodles View Post
    How often do you guys waste cards? As in, not throw them out?

    There’s so little healing to do, i can go a whole minute without using the “utility” cards.

    If they wanted to copy Aetherflow, they should’ve done it right. Have all 4 utility cards as cooldowns, Astral/Umbral draws are just 3 “Aetherflows” for use, and then have Balance be your card dump for a measly 1% damage boost.

    It’s still shitty design, but at least it’s a known working system.
    Initially, I forced myself to use ALL the cards, but all the weaving for negligible gain became frustrating. Now, on single target fights, unless there’s a legitimate tankbusters coming I only toss out Balance, Spear, and Lord. On AoE trash I’ll use Ewer on the tank as they pull. I’ll also use support cards pre-pull just so it declutters my rotation. It definitely doesn’t feel great.
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Amecoeur View Post
    The way I use it currently is use Spire (400p shield) prepull, in dungeon when pulling).
    Opener is quite the same with EW.

    [XX]Earthly Star
    [-1.5]Malefic
    [0]Combustion
    [GCD1]Malefic > Lightspeed
    [GCD2]Malefic > Divination
    [GCD3]Malefic > Play Balance, Play Lords
    [GCD4]Malefic > Umbral Draw, Play Spear

    You can keep the rest of the cards until Astral Draw. Use them as you need, just don't forget to spend them.
    Cast Astral Draw on cooldown and use the Spire as you need, be sure to spend it before your Divination burst phase.

    The only thing I dont use often is Arrow tbh, the healing increase doesn't boost abilities heal if I'm not mistaken and we want to use spell heal as much as possible so unless its a heavy spell heal situation I just let it expire.
    And this is exactly why cards should be randomised. This is so dry, formulaic and joyless, it feels more like data entry than an RPG.
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    Amecoeur Ljosenvos
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    Gungnir
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    And this is exactly why cards should be randomised. This is so dry, formulaic and joyless, it feels more like data entry than an RPG.
    Though I'm usually for the reliability and consistency I do agree with you. Astrologian in theme is supposed to be uncertainty and foretelling.
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Amecoeur View Post
    Though I'm usually for the reliability and consistency I do agree with you. Astrologian in theme is supposed to be uncertainty and foretelling.
    Cheers. If people prefer the methodic approach they can take one of the other three. Jobs in general should have a range of play styles. Not just with/without cast bar. Personally, I don't understand why we even have so many jobs when none of them are allowed to be at least somewhat different to one another.
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    They seriously made 5 Hotkeys for the cards, lmao, Astro has the worst job design of all jobs.
    Still gonna level it to 100 and never touch it again , just like before.^

    using this card makro:
    /micon "Umbral Draw"
    /ac "Play I"
    /ac "Play II"
    /ac "Play III"
    /ac "Astral Draw"
    /ac "Umbral Draw"
    this should be ONE hotkey, NOT 4!
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    Last edited by Arohk; 07-14-2024 at 03:13 AM.

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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    They seriously made 5 Hotkeys for the cards, lmao, Astro has the worst job design of all jobs.
    Still gonna level it to 100 and never touch it again , just like before.^

    using this card makro:


    this should be ONE hotkey, NOT 4!
    what this macro do?
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    the only issue I have with the current card iteration is that Umbral/Astral Draw feels redundant to me. It's a 60 sec cd that simply allows the use of Play. You can achieve the same effect by simply having 2 charges of Play 1,2,3 respectively at 60 secs. The cards would be best described as ogcds and lack the defining traits that all cards are associated with, luck. I know what card I am getting, when I am getting it, and how I will get it so to call these cards instead of ogcds is a bit of a stretch.
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    Lysander Amairgen
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 98
    THEY REDUCED THE DRAW COOLDOWNS FROM 60 TO 55 WHAT A JOKE! lmao
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    Character
    Kuroshi Hotoke
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Gave it another go and still just meh with it. To many added card buttons on a full already hot bar for me. I had to remove my rescue and sprint and place them on a job hot bar changer just to have it all. And what changes did they do? Nothing seems like it lol also I never mind the rng of astro I never complained until this expansion about astro either even when they kept changing it up I tried to make do. This will be a class like monk I get to 100 amd forget about
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