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    They at least seemed to understand with divine caress that you can’t potency buff rapture WHM’s problems away its problem is mitigation and utility

    They just then messed up again by forcibly tying caress to temperance so you don’t really get more mitigation, you just get a little more power to your mitigation under temperance, which is better than nothing but doesn’t remotely fix WHM’s problems
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They at least seemed to understand with divine caress that you can’t potency buff rapture WHM’s problems away its problem is mitigation and utility

    They just then messed up again by forcibly tying caress to temperance so you don’t really get more mitigation, you just get a little more power to your mitigation under temperance, which is better than nothing but doesn’t remotely fix WHM’s problems
    And if you ask me the problems should not be fixed. Instead the other healers should get problems as well. What's up with the barrier / pure healer split? Fixing problems will turn us all into WAR, metaphorically speaking.

    It is just as much fun to play out your strenghts as it is to overcome your weakness and win anyway.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    And if you ask me the problems should not be fixed. Instead the other healers should get problems as well. What's up with the barrier / pure healer split? Fixing problems will turn us all into WAR, metaphorically speaking.

    It is just as much fun to play out your strenghts as it is to overcome your weakness and win anyway.
    That would be fine if WHM had any strengths to leverage but they don't. Their spells cost more for no reason, their MP sustain is generally worse than that of SCH or SGE (not sure about current AST), they have fewer and less powerful oGCDs than the other healers, their mitigation is weaker. What strengths does WHM really have over the other healers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    That would be fine if WHM had any strengths to leverage but they don't. Their spells cost more for no reason, their MP sustain is generally worse than that of SCH or SGE (not sure about current AST), they have fewer and less powerful oGCDs than the other healers, their mitigation is weaker. What strengths does WHM really have over the other healers?
    WHM does in the modern game have the strongest MP economy but that’s really not much to leverage at all

    In every other facet of healing it’s the weakest option
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHM does in the modern game have the strongest MP economy but that’s really not much to leverage at all

    In every other facet of healing it’s the weakest option
    huh?

    even in mp economy it isnt the strongest, not since they changed thin air from shb to ew. in fact id say whm mp management and economy is prob worse then the other healers mp management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    huh?

    even in mp economy it isnt the strongest, not since they changed thin air from shb to ew. in fact id say whm mp management and economy is prob worse then the other healers mp management.
    WHM has hidden MP management in that every lily is actually a 400 MP refund because it’s a glare that isn’t being cast. So every minute you cast 4 lilys which is a 400 MP refund, then you get one charge of thin air (400 MP) and 1.5 charges of assize (750 MP)

    So WHM’s minute per minute MP is 2750 which is the strongest of the healers since they nerfed AST’s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    WHM has hidden MP management in that every lily is actually a 400 MP refund because it’s a glare that isn’t being cast. So every minute you cast 4 lilys which is a 400 MP refund, then you get one charge of thin air (400 MP) and 1.5 charges of assize (750 MP)

    So WHM’s minute per minute MP is 2750 which is the strongest of the healers since they nerfed AST’s
    that is literally grasping straws for whm really... the mp management there is tbh more abysmal then any of the healers you realize it right?

    he isn't refunding, you can say saving mp but not refunding. refunding is assize and lucid dreaming that is all.

    in fact to prevent him from going mp negative you must cast lily and use thin air or your in a bad spot its why his mp management is the worst then the rest of the healers...
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