[Feedback] Male Miqo'te Face 4 - Glassy Eye Issue

[Toffle]

This was an issue I brought up on the Benchmark, and it's still present in Dawntrail itself.

But, for Miqo'te Male Face 4, the eyeshine is... odd. It's more like they just have 'glassy eyes' which gives the impression of being blind.

It's only when you tilt their head upwards, or angle the light just right, that you can see their actual eye-shine.

This isn't an issue present on any of the other Miqo'te Male faces. Faces 1, 2, and 3, all have their expected eye-shine at any angle, but Face 4 has a glassy sheen, with the eye-shine only visible in very specific angles.

It's a little disheartening, as it makes the character look 'dead' in cutscenes, when everyone else in same scene has so much life in their eyes with that one small detail. This persists in any lighting, day or night.

I'm not sure if it's because of the shine itself, or if the sculpt of the eye has changed, or if the eyes are slightly smaller. But whatever the cause of it, I hope this is something that can be adjusted.

Overall, so much of this graphics update is AMAZING. But it's sad seeing my character look like they have no life in their eyes because of this odd difference between face types.

Thank you for your hard work overall though

[GreenLeafy]

I could be wrong but looking across characters and races I think there's a universal level that the catchlights are on and unfortunately the smaller eyeshapes , and esp face 4 male miqo , are just low enough where they don't pick it up proper in a lot of cases because the catchlights are too high. Thus why they do appear when the character looks up. And for male miqo it really doesn't help when they have a slight downward look with their face aswell.

Compared to female miqo eyes which are huge and catch all the lights in the universe lol.
I guess its a pitfall when you try to make a catch-all setting for something that varies so highly across characters. I really hope they do address this because with how much more dull Sunseeker eyes are now too it really just amplifies the dead expression for them aswell.

[M-Iuliana]

There is a jarring difference between EW version of my character and DT version.
Aside from the fact that tanned skin is extra shiny for no god damn reason in any lighting, all the time - not just in rain - the entire under brow area of the face is different.
The softened up features around the eyes, make the eyebrows blend into the forehead, whereas before they were clearly defined.
The glassiness of the eyes and lack of eye shines is egregious and very noticeable in cut scenes. No amount of Nvidia filtering of the PC's green-grey low contrast can change this.

[Supersnow845]

You can notice on koana that eye shape 4 and 6 look infinitely better on male miqote than the other 4 eye shapes because they are open enough to catch the new catchlights

Koana’s eyes look totally fine as do mine (eye 6) but eyes 1,2,3 and 5 look horrid

[NonBinaryNyan]

My Moon Keeper Miqo has male face 1, and their eyes are also duller now. They don't have that glow to them anymore, and additionally I think that the way surrounding light reflects off the lens of the eye is more diffuse than it should be, which is washing it out.

[GrizzlyTank]

Everyone eyes have become glassy.

Instead of just increasing the quality, they upped the size of the iris, lowered the contrast between the white, iris and pupils and made it so that the white in the eye reflects light. So it ends up looking gooey/glassy.

[Burmecia]

My observation too.
So out of my lmaotillion catboy alts/mules those who had light coloured eyes (yellow, light grey) have hardly changed to look at. (At their weirdest they have glossy lips which was something i tried to avoid with most of them. Gotta test what colouring the lips will do to fix that.)
And those who had brighter and/or fuller coloured eyes, well, they seem to have entered into their dull eyes of unhappiness phase. At least if you try ro look at them at their eye level or higher. Looking at my boys from lower pov reveals their old face and anime eye gloss to be there, just hidden behind their updated eyelids.



Yeah, I would love to see this changed. Poor face4/eye3 combo, you were so cute.

[Toffle]

Yeah it's been a time. It's so painfully noticeable whenever a Miqo'te turns up in a cutscene. Especially when there's other races in the scene whose eyes look perfectly fine.

It's also affecting the ability to clearly read the colour of their eyes, since it's covered by that glassy sheen;;;