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  1. #41
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    sindriiisgaming's Avatar
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feathetaria View Post
    I may have to resort to becoming a modder so that i can commission a mod maker to make a mod that makes me look like my old vanilla self.
    Okay while I deeply sympathise with you as my character also looks horrible. A Modder prolly can't fix this because the issue is the new light source engine and how the lip shadows work. Try bringing your character face on to a light source and see if it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  2. #42
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    Okay while I deeply sympathise with you as my character also looks horrible. A Modder prolly can't fix this because the issue is the new light source engine and how the lip shadows work. Try bringing your character face on to a light source and see if it helps.
    Again... There was more done that just the lighting. Yeah maybe the new lighting would have looked strange on the old faces due to dated geometry. But still it wouldn't have changed the size and shape of our character.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    How exactly would a change in lighting affect the clear difference in facial expression due to the eyes being more round than previously?
    As you can see from these pictures here. It is making a massive difference.




    I think the current engine they're using for shadows is casting them off every corner of your wols face. Including the brow eye lips and chin. So yes it's completely changing your face shape and making you look lifeless in the dark
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 06-30-2024 at 04:17 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

  4. #44
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    Mourning Glory
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ConantSivrha View Post
    I don't play elezen, but even I'm salty that they got rid of that lip shape. Another nice-looking and unique mouth lost to homogenization. I also see what you mean about the eyes. The Endwalker version looks intense and alert, while the Dawntrail version looks placid.

    What is your opinion on the following image?



    The face to the left is the Dawntrail face with the Endwalker iris and sclera color. The face to the right is the Endwalker face with the Dawntrail iris and sclera color. I was curious how much the darkened iris color and the heavy shadow over the top of the eye changes the apparent shape of the eyes.
    Wow, I appreciate you taking the time to make such an edit! I think the darkened iris really does affect how she looks a lot...I found in cutscenes it often looked like she wasn't there at all, even with the now ever-present eyeshines. In fact they kind of made it worse in my opinion, lol. I miss her old, more intense gaze a lot. I think if I could have her old irises back, or even ones with slightly less intense shadows, I'd be a lot happier.
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  5. #45
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    Neria Kita
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    Mateus
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Au Ra face 2 is barely recognisable - round face shape gone, eyes look dead, mouth choices are pursed lips or look inflated. Overall it looks like they had an allergic reaction, I don't know why they changed it so much unnecessarily, especially since I've played this character for years
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  6. #46
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    I wonder if anyone has been able to duplicate that bug?


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    Last edited by Neoyoshi; 07-01-2024 at 12:29 PM.


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  7. #47
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    I wonder if anyone has been able to duplicate that bug?
    I've seen multiple clips of it happening on that particular Au Ra face, so presumably it's duplicatable as long as you have that face type and maybe some specific settings.
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  8. #48
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    One thing I'm noticing is that the new graphics overhaul seems to work better with races with sharper features (your Highlanders, Roegadyn etc,), and a lot of people that seem dissatisfied are races with "softer" features (your Miqo'te, Elezen, etc). I think the midtones are more subtle compared to the highlights/shadows, but with a lot of rounded features where you wouldn't have "strong" light/shadow, it's looking washy on them.

    Maybe, I'm by no means a professional artist. All I know is that the lighting looks nice on fem highlanders.
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  9. #49
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    He He
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    The pizza is very........

    ...

    Yeah gosh that's so cursed lmfao.
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    Korbo Epocan
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    Ultros
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    i was hoping id just kinda get used to it but the lips are just SO BAD
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