Nightworld Silver Piece Quest Rewards in Dawntrail

[DocQuixote]

First time posting, but it just really caught my attention while turning in quests in Dawntrail that there's quite the itemization quirk which may or may not have a relationship in lore, or it could just be an oversight.

What's the deal with Nightworld Silver Pieces being given out as quest rewards from characters existing in The Source, and would have likely had no contact with The First? Only way such coins could be accessible enough to be in the hands of common folk would be if there was somehow a means to routinely and easily traverse The Rift to the extent in which currency flowed to and from The Source and The First. Unless the WoL brought back so many coins they somehow entered common circulation all the way in The New World.

Of course, if the answer to this is a spoiler, let's not delve any deeper for now!

[Wyssahtyn]

gameplay/story segregation

[Jonnycbad]

They changed the flavor text in DT. Prior, it used to say it was pre flood currency. Now it says it's ancient currency

[Iscah]

They changed the flavor text in DT. Prior, it used to say it was pre flood currency. Now it says it's ancient currency

I feel like the name probably should have been changed along with the description, unless it's meant to be setting up an implication that they're linked. (Haven't got far enough to know if they are or not.)

[jadeharley]

Bumping this thread, as I was thinking once again about how this is a bit of a strange choice. I feel the original localization, "Nightworld" was a cool, unique reference to Shadowbringers.

As of the current version, the Japanese for this item is "古代の銀貨" which google translate (sorry) tells me is "ancient coin", a bit more generic. I am not sure if the Japanese name has changed in the past. The EN localization team often adds a bit of a flair to localization (I love this!) but in this case, it may have ended up causing confusion later down the line.

FWIW, my "actually, nightworld is meant to be a poetic term"mental description for the item is something along the lines of:

A coin of ancient currency from a civilization whose day has long since passed.

[Zero-ELEC]

I am not sure if the Japanese name has changed in the past.

It has not, it was always that.

[Cleretic]

Bumping this thread, as I was thinking once again about how this is a bit of a strange choice. I feel the original localization, "Nightworld" was a cool, unique reference to Shadowbringers.

As of the current version, the Japanese for this item is "古代の銀貨" which google translate (sorry) tells me is "ancient coin", a bit more generic. I am not sure if the Japanese name has changed in the past. The EN localization team often adds a bit of a flair to localization (I love this!) but in this case, it may have ended up causing confusion later down the line.

FWIW, my "actually, nightworld is meant to be a poetic term"mental description for the item is something along the lines of:

Yeah, this is what I expected. It's hardly an isolated thing; the English localization's tendency towards the more flowery and dramatic, while almost entirely well-regarded (even among the Japanese audience), has sometimes created discrepancies when they weren't there before. Rarely stretching to the level of plot hole, but sometimes leaving us confused for a while.

My favorite example on this one is that because of English localization calling it 'the Heart of Sabik', the English audience spent several expansions completely unaware of what the thing actually was and often assuming that it was an actual heart, while in Japanese it was the perfectly clear, if fairly plain, 'Black Auracite Sabik'.

[No_Nick_Needed]

Yok Hui architechture shares a little bit of communailty with Rhonka ruins, and it's surely no coincident that Y'Shtola of all people was studying them in the Dawntrail video, so they were putting out hints toward a connection with the First even before the release of 7.0. And if we go further back, there were some of the living statues that later became sineaters in Amdapor.

But then we have the optional dungeon. There you go into a straight up Rhonka ruin, with Rhonka automata and fight a "great snake" which up to that point existed only in the First. So yeah, there's a whole lot of heavy hinting that there's a connection to the First in Yok Tural.

[Iscah]

There you go into a straight up Rhonka ruin, with Rhonka automata and fight a "great snake" which up to that point existed only in the First.

We've only seen the Great Serpent in the First – but what region is Ronka/Rak'tika geographically equivalent to, and what is their symbolic animal and colour?

Drawing Norvrandt-Tural parallels is weird when Norvrandt is clearly Eorzea. (Edit to be clear: Weird that the devs are doing it.)

[SannaR]

We've only seen the Great Serpent in the First – but what region is Ronka/Rak'tika geographically equivalent to, and what is their symbolic animal and colour?

Drawing Norvrandt-Tural parallels is weird when Norvrandt is clearly Eorzea.

And yet tender valley has clearly Ronkan looks at the end of a place people thought was belonging to the Yok Hoy. The later half of the skydeep cenote also has a bit of Ronkan feel to it. Then there are the higher floors of Heaven on High that have the same look. I feel as though some time post sundering a shared great empire rose up not only on the source but on the shards. It would make some kind of sense as very early on there wouldn't be much diversion between shards and the source. But then this could also just be a funny nod to how different cultures not related to each other ended up creating similar structures.