Picto sweeps

[Ramiee]

I don't think they want both have equal damage. It's just number juggling from here on out. BLm will get it's buffs for sure, nothing new there.
PCT needs a bit less damage but not to much because the 4s cast times are there after all. I'm also against removing its utility. That would just be homogenization again. It can be a nice spot between BLM and RDM to lessen the gap between the casters.
It's also kinda more burst heavy in contrast to BLM so another thing to contrast them. At least it seems to me.

What RDM needs is a personal shield and maybe some other kind of raidwide stuff. Other then that it is in a good spot right now from gameplay perspective I think.
Res is a big thing in progging and in other content though. I bet to say it would also be more usefull and not such a "stupid" tax if they lessened the body- and dps checks and found other things to make fights interesting. Then it could shine in more then prog but thats another discussion.

I mean I think they are separated groups into sub groups. I expect the next ranged DPS to have no buffs so we have damage ranged DPS and buff ranged DPS. We have Res caster and damage casters, just going logically. I'm trying to rationalise it because honestly this has just been awful design choices since the healer split that now I see these patterns.

I also wouldn't want PCT to lose it's utility and prefer that BLM just became fully selfish utility (I could do away with the raid buffs though I really just don't like how many DPS have them.)
You could easily separate each caster into unique play styles. BLM is the selfish damage dealer, PCT is the utility damage dealer, RDM could be the movement and support caster and after another rework SMN could be the pet caster.
Genuinely just want the Devs to put Res on long CDs so this whole Res tax bullshit can be removed.

[SweetPete]

They better not nerf my PCT at all. Yeah its motifs are strong but that’s because we have to paint them. They do need to just buff black mage for sure but that’s all. Leave my PCT alone devs.

[Supersnow845]

They better not nerf my PCT at all. Yeah its motifs are strong but that’s because we have to paint them. They do need to just buff black mage for sure but that’s all. Leave my PCT alone devs.

It’s not just the motifs that are strong, the entire kit is a little bit overtuned

The entire reversed aetherhue combo is just shy of equal in potency to a BLM casting 4 xeno’s, the reversed aetherhue combo is too accessible for that level of potency especially since you can make it stronger by reducing its CD in starry muse as well as the motifs

BLM is undertuned but when PCT is clearing the melees as well it might need a 5% or so nerf on some of its actions (and I say this as someone who adores PCT)

[Sunako]

Even if Pictomancer do significantly less dps against dummy, they can still beat BLM in raid settings with current skill set. You literally win 12 second worth of globals if you cast motifs during downtime.

[SweetPete]

It’s not just the motifs that are strong, the entire kit is a little bit overtuned

The entire reversed aetherhue combo is just shy of equal in potency to a BLM casting 4 xeno’s, the reversed aetherhue combo is too accessible for that level of potency especially since you can make it stronger by reducing its CD in starry muse as well as the motifs

BLM is undertuned but when PCT is clearing the melees as well it might need a 5% or so nerf on some of its actions (and I say this as someone who adores PCT)

I guess I can agree with that.

[Ramiee]

My issue isn't the easy rotation, but SMN cannot have better DPS then RDM, while it has really good mobility to the point where its almost just a phys range, RDM needs to actually cast way more often, for bursts it often needs to be in melee range which is sort of more difficult when you're doing ranged mechs (at least with smns book melee you can plan way better around that).

Even "rez" the gap between RDMs veraise and SMNs has closed due to swift being 40s.

no contest really unless SMN wants to be a actual "caster" i think it should be the lowest and sit with the phyiscal ranged, where smn even arguably has better utility.

Honestly I think summoner could be fixed by having dots reintroduced that you have to cast. They don't even need to be damage dealing they could just be weakness and all your damage comes from the summons. (Kinda like reaper but more than one maybe 3 to coincide with the Lego pieces.)
This will keep the constant movement of the summons but also have forced cast times you have to plan for. Trying to work around the EW remake of the job is really hard though it's kinda trapped in it's auto-play rotation.

[Shiroe]

its about utility, not difficulty.., and Smn has some odd choices (healing? only available for a few sec after Solar Baha; gap closer? only available during Ifrit; shield? not available after demi-summons, nor a few sec after other summons)

[Shiroe]

I take that back, it is also about difficulty, but Utility too
Smn mobility if not stuck in Ifrit is high (but has some odd restrictions, the dash is only up during Ifrit, the heal has a timer to it only up during Solar Baha, shield is long, but also not available during demi summons or shortyl after normal summons.., just all small grievances when learning a fight)

[Sequora]

It’s all a numbers game. Pictomancer should be slightly below black mage just as all of the melee DPS are should be slightly below SAM in terms of personal DPS. Add in their damage buff and it should even out.

I don’t know why people think casters should be treated differently from the other DPS roles.

PCT doesn’t have a Rez, meaning it’s not paying the Rez tax. It’s also very cast heavy compared to summoner.

It has several movement options, but most of those require casting beforehand. I would personally rather them buff BLM numbers than nerf PCT.

PCT will be in a similar position to BLM when raiding starts. No rez means either they’ll be competing against RDM/SMN, or they’ll be competing for the “second melee spot”.

[Chasingstars]

Kind of wild picto is like this. As by comparison red mage, only got damage related traits and abilities for this expansion. And yet rdm is still consider the weaker one. I personally don't think that red mage can ever reach black mage or pictomancer in terms of damage. And even on rdm's own support front, it really only has verraise and dualcast by comparison which is great for progressing, but then gets cast aside later when it isn't needed.

I personally don't think red mage should try to compete for highest damage as a caster, but instead should expand for more support-related abilities.