Thread: 60fps cap for 2.0?

I don't even know where to begin.

Originally Posted by Valmonte

He's quite right if there are no artificial limits your GPU would literally Fry itself by overload, there will always be a cap.

Current generations Cards Can reproduce upto 400+ frames a Second without reaching Maximum GPU Limit @ around 500 Frames the Cards GPU will be under 100% load, no GPU can last more than a few minutes under a 100% load they will always burn themselves out usually by way of V.Current Leakage or solder balls melting. also keep in mind that 400+ frames a second can only be achieved by Artificial means with no over head (texture's,AA,AF, TESS, etc etc).

The artificial limits you're talking about to prevent overheating is something the drivers and GPU firmware takes care of. Looking at just framerate when it comes to a graphics card's power output is just plain wrong. It is a combination of graphical detail, resolution, framerate and a bunch of other things. The total amount of processing a card needs to do is what determines how much heat it generates. If I lower my graphics settings so that i'm able to do 120fps, that makes fuck-all of a difference for the graphics card as far as heat generation is concerned.

Originally Posted by TheRac25

wrong, for instance quake 3 was frame capped by default, consistent frame rate is far more important than 60+ framerate in professional play

Quake 3 arena was frame capped because a consistent framerate is desirable for the players, and because at the time the game was released, most computers could not give a consistent 120fps framerate at good graphical settings.

There is no limit in the Q3A graphics engine when it comes to how many frames the game can render per second. I actually downloaded the game just now and did a timedemo with 864 FPS average, and I was CPU limited, not GPU limited. With an i7, I probably would have broken 1000 fps. There is no automatism in high framerate and graphics card overheating. Just because I could, I also tested crysis and got to around 300 fps there, without getting a higher load on my GPU than FF14 gives me at 50fps. Just drop the entire framerate-overheat argument and admit you were wrong.

There is absolutely no hardware-related reason why FF14 can't run at 120fps, or even more.

Originally Posted by Mirage

Oh my lord. Please explain to me how 120fps will burn my video card out faster than 60fps, when I capped to 60 would increase the image quality sufficiently for the game to max out my video card anyway.

And if FF14 somehow manages to do this, it's a game that should be pulled from the market, cause 120FPS has been possible for a long time on PCs, and was almost the norm for PC gamers before LCDs became mainstream. Tons of CRTs were capable of outputting 120hz 10 years ago, and competitive gamers would almost always play at 100fps or more.

wrong, for instance quake 3 was frame capped by default, consistent frame rate is far more important than 60+ framerate in professional play

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Laraul

A few months ago everytime I would start FFXIV, after a few minutes my system would spontaneously power completely down. Turns out some wood dust was preventing the GPU fan from spinning up. At idle the temperature was 95C. A fail safe* exists to prevent irreversible damage to the hardware components.

How did I fix it? I gave the fan a light tap to get it spinning. It's been working fine since. And this was SEVERAL DAYS with the GPU running at 95C. So I don't believe FFXIV is capable of "frying" your graphics card, nor is any other game.

And somewhat related, just because your GPU gets a little warm does not mean the game is poorly optimized. There is no correlation between how optimized a game engine is and how hot your GPU gets.

* "Fail safe" is a term I coined up, it may not necessarily be the technical term used officially

Yup, correct.... it's something that has been around since at least the days of the 7800GTX, and I know cause I remember my 7800GTX shutting down as it got too hot. (I still probably have the card somewhere in my computer component box. lol)

Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Heya guys!

While the details have not yet been decided, we are planning to make it possible to select from 30fps, 60fps and uncapped settings. ^_^

Very nice, everyone get's what they want... or what the think they want.

Thanks for the response Rukkirii!