Revelations from Dawntrail (7.0)

[Wyssahtyn]

That interview is such a fail. I don't want to go back to and become a Shogun. I want to move on to better reflections or other hidden places on the source.

"Right now in the game, in Hingashi, there is a war taking place between different Shoguns and the Shogunate of Hingashi."

guy doesn't even know his own game's world state if he's spouting off stuff like this lol. zero indication or lead up to the supposed fact that Hingashi's in the middle of a civil war right now in game. you'd think someone would have mentioned "hey, we need to be careful and not get shot down on our way to Mount Rokkon since we're crossing the entirety of Shishu and Lord so and so's forces might take potshots at us" in Endwalker. or heck, with that melee dps dt role quest, Hingashi would be a hotbed for the antagonist to stir up easy chaos, so why go to Doma or the Azim Steppe?

[Cleretic]

or heck, with that melee dps dt role quest, Hingashi would be a hotbed for the antagonist to stir up easy chaos, so why go to Doma or the Azim Steppe?

Why set fire to a building that's already burning? That guy's whole thing was to try to get innocent people and friends to pull the knives out on each other, there's no fun in doing that with people who are already waiting for a chance to stab each other.

I think you might be defaulting to a specific image of war that's not necessarily true here, too. You seem to be picturing total war, where all notion of unacceptable targets and weapons, or any result other than complete victory, are on the table. And I don't think that really applies here; I think we're looking more at longer-term tensions that occasionally flare up into open conflict, which isn't the typical image of war these days, but it's how a lot of wars generally did work in history.

[EdwinLi]

Considering we are most likely going to use the Gate to enter the world of FF11 for the FF11 raid, I wonder if we may see Iroha again in the FF11 raid storyline. Last time we saw her, she went off on her own to find a way back to the world of FF11 and now right here in this expansion, we have the means for her to return back to the world of FF11.

[Cleretic]

Considering we are most likely going to use the Gate to enter the world of FF11 for the FF11 raid, I wonder if we may see Iroha again in the FF11 raid storyline. Last time we saw her, she went off on her own to find a way back to the world of FF11 and now right here in this expansion, we have the means for her to return back to the world of FF11.

I wouldn't call that presumption of how the FFXI raids happen 'most likely' at all, but I would say that even if we do actually travel to Actual-Factual FFXI Vana'diel for the raids, Iroha's unlikely to turn up until the end if at all, just because she was a very late-game character, and what little we currently have on the first raid seems to suggest it's focused on the basegame and early expansions; we've seen the Shadowlord's throne room (basegame), Fafnir as a boss (first expansion), and the poster shows Prishe (second expansion).

For clarification, Iroha is from after they stopped even doing expansions, but if we call her update one as a 'close-enough' term it's the twelfth. Including Iroha in the raids as they currently appear would be like another game doing a big FFXIV crossover focused on ARR and Heavensward, but also putting Wuk Lamat in there.

Plus, c'mon, we've gotta say hi to Shantotto first.

(EDIT: Miscounted just how many updates in Iroha was!)

[Iscah]

I haven't played FFXI for context, but I feel like it's more likely that Iroha would just get a passing mention if you've done the relevant quests, rather than playing an active part that has to slot together whether you've done her quests or not.

Is she important enough in FFXI that she should be brought into the raid story, or could it just be left open that maybe she'll find her way home through whatever route you open for the raids?

[Cleretic]

Is she important enough in FFXI that she should be brought into the raid story, or could it just be left open that maybe she'll find her way home through whatever route you open for the raids?

She's basically the focus character of Rhapsody of Vana'diel, in a similar way to Wuk Lamat in Dawntrail or Lyse in Stormblood, so if the raid story does get to that point then she actually is a natural inclusion, but if and how is reliant on how the story is actually framed.

Prishe is a similar focus character, so Iroha could conceivably be the third raid focus. And given that, the second actually would make sense to be Shantotto; she got her focus story at about that period.

[EdwinLi]

I see Koana gets to use the Sniper Rifle in 7.1

I still think the Sniper Rifle should have become part of MCH normal skill by now instead of keeping it as a PvP limit break exclusive as a Very High damage skill at this point that players have to choose to risk using it or not.

She's basically the focus character of Rhapsody of Vana'diel, in a similar way to Wuk Lamat in Dawntrail or Lyse in Stormblood, so if the raid story does get to that point then she actually is a natural inclusion, but if and how is reliant on how the story is actually framed.

Prishe is a similar focus character, so Iroha could conceivably be the third raid focus. And given that, the second actually would make sense to be Shantotto; she got her focus story at about that period.

It looks like alliance raid 1 maybe a speedrun of the entire Rhapsody of Vana'diel arc from what the trailer shows so far. I wonder if each Raid may focus on one specific story arc in a single raid since we got 2 more.

[Iscah]

Something that I keep wondering about is Zoraal Ja's "boss form" – it reminds me a lot of the blue-glowing "spectre" enemies (more like oversized zombies) we find in places like Sirensong and the Gyr Abanian tombs. I wonder if that is deliberate? If the spectres come from humans – and their presence in tombs suggests they are transformed bodies rather than detached souls – then has Zoraal Ja somehow become the same thing from a Mamool Ja rather than human base shape?

[Iscah]

Today's Windows login screen background is Iguazú Falls, Brazil, and it looks like Kozama'uka.

[innis31]

If Alexandria was part of the 9th shard was Terra an entirely different shard?