Fem hroth rigging problems?

[Minali]

I get the idea of different styles and all, but it should still fit the anatomy of the body it is on. And, idk, maybe not decapitate my poor girl.

My screenshots from 2024 from the Virtu Ravager's Cuirass, clone of WAR artifact gear, so not exactly a niche glam. Thought about making new screenshots but nothing has changed since then. The bug report I wrote for this was moved to "Duplicate Bugs" immediately and it seems that's just a graveyard nobody bothers looking at ever again...


(More screenshots in the bug report thread, including comparisons with a Lalafell and a Viera: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ager-s-Cuirass )

[CidHeiral]

While I'm not against large shoulders as I enjoy my big shoulders in WoW. The problem with them on hrothgar is they're often just completely floating off our body in a way that looks reaaaaally silly.

Funny you should mention WoW because undead shoulders look horrible as a direct result of similar player complaints. Everyone is entitled to leave their feedback, just be careful what you wish for.

[IttyBittyShark]

I get the idea of different styles and all, but it should still fit the anatomy of the body it is on. And, idk, maybe not decapitate my poor girl.

oh no i completely agree with that. a lot of the gear seems to float off of hrothgirls and it looks really strange.

[Picothea]

Saw a female miqo'te wearing some Trueblood armor today, and decided to see how they'd look on female hrothgar. Very interesting difference. And by "interesting" I mean "that's absurd".

[DynnDiablos]

Saw a female miqo'te wearing some Trueblood armor today, and decided to see how they'd look on female hrothgar. Very interesting difference. And by "interesting" I mean "that's absurd".

The scaling is absolutely for the males. And I don't see how no one on the dev side has seen these issues and thinks it is ok. How do you create a whole new race and then make it is so a huge portion of their gear doesn't fit properly? It is absolutely INSANE to me.

[Absurdity]

The scaling is absolutely for the males. And I don't see how no one on the dev side has seen these issues and thinks it is ok. How do you create a whole new race and then make it is so a huge portion of their gear doesn't fit properly? It is absolutely INSANE to me.

Because they never changed the actual gear pieces, for both Viera and Hrothgar it's just the male Midlander gloves with some kind of racial scaling applied.

From those screenshots it seems that they scaled the elbow bone way too high, and it's affecting all long gloves that are rigged to it.

Elezen have a similar issue but for shoulder plates.

[RedLolly]

Because they never changed the actual gear pieces, for both Viera and Hrothgar it's just the male Midlander gloves with some kind of racial scaling applied.

From those screenshots it seems that they scaled the elbow bone way too high, and it's affecting all long gloves that are rigged to it.

Elezen have a similar issue but for shoulder plates.

Is this why we never got a second short race besides Lalafell? I think I read ages ago that Lalafell use a unique rig and, if so, probably doesn't scale so easily.

[Absurdity]

Is this why we never got a second short race besides Lalafell? I think I read ages ago that Lalafell use a unique rig and, if so, probably doesn't scale so easily.

Yep, Lalafell and male Roegadyn (which is shared with male Hrothgar) are the only ones that need a separate model for any piece of gear. Their bodies are too different to achieve with bone scaling alone.

Another short race is not impossible, but it would be very similar to Lalafell so they don't have to make another unique model for hundreds of pieces of gear.

[RedLolly]

Yep, Lalafell and male Roegadyn (which is shared with male Hrothgar) are the only ones that need a separate model for any piece of gear. Their bodies are too different to achieve with bone scaling alone.

Another short race is not impossible, but it would be very similar to Lalafell so they don't have to make another unique model for hundreds of pieces of gear.

Oh my god. What if this means Hrothgals are using the Roe Male rig and that's what's causing issues...

[HeavenlyPeaches]

Oh my god. What if this means Hrothgals are using the Roe Male rig and that's what's causing issues...

That would be horrible.....
That also means they probably won't change it?