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  1. #2491
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    Vensaval's Avatar
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    Vhen'li Sahval
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    I can disprove this statement with only one word. Smile
    To be fair, that's practically the one exception.

    It sticks out like a grotesquely sore thumb, but still.
    (13)
    Howdy o/

  2. #2492
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by sylphlands View Post
    This has been a huuuuge issue of mine as well and I can't believe it got past sensitivity consultants. When I got to the reeds part I knew I was in for a rough ride. Why on earth would the Hanu forget their own culture, and why would Wuk Lamat know how to solve it in 10 minutes? I also found the entire Mamook section so hilariously out of touch - the writers earnestly selling the idea that these people would need to be told by outsiders, "Have you tried planting seeds about it instead of doing a eugenics project that kills 99% of your offspring?"
    For an expansion that was supposed to be crafted and vetted for cultural sensitivity it's an almost hilariously continuous roll of white saviour + stupid natives + Shah of Iran / CIA operations. I also notice that the underlying motif of "cultural understanding" is food, which is such an oblivious western approach to cultural appreciation "oh those funny brown people, they make a mean curry/taco". In the past of FF14 it would have been something weighty like religion or government or a system of oppression etc etc but food is "Disney-safe".
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  3. #2493
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    Cotytto Baptes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healing-the-things View Post
    This writing is so bad I don't even care to finish pushing the MSQ further and I'm legit going to just wait for the 'tales of adventure' option to come out so I can buy my way out of this garbage story. I'm starting to think that was their intention all along... to get more people to buy-a-nope and get away from this less than mediore storyline.
    This is my plan. I can kill a couple of years with 2.0-6.0 content and alts. Hell I fiddled around for a year after finishing 6.0 before I forced myself to finish it due to how much I didn't like the post patches. And I didn't have anywhere near as visceral reaction to them as I have this abomination of an MSQ. There is literally nothing at "endgame" that I am so desperate for I will suffer the awful MSQ and Wok LeRug any further.

    It is not all in their favor monetarily though. This was my last preorder. They lost my trust by shoving this utter insult of a fanfic story out the door. I'm going to hold off on buying it until 8.0 is safely out for me to see if they actually learned any lessons from this travesty. Going to see if the writing is any better or if they decide to double down (like the vast majority of companies do when they screw up royally).

    I never thought I'd see the day that a FF game known for it's story would release anything this amateurishly awful centered around a character seemingly created to be hated.
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  4. #2494
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    Lala Felon
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    I hope, if Yoshi ever looks at the reactions, he thinks "Such Detestation, this was not my intention"

    And we see Hiroi-kun booted and the responsibility given to some decent A-Grade writers.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  5. #2495
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I hope, if Yoshi ever looks at the reactions, he thinks "Such Detestation, this was not my intention"

    And we see Hiroi-kun booted and the responsibility given to some decent A-Grade writers.
    Blaming the writers is not going to do anything when the source of the problem is Yoshi P intentionally stretching the team thin and putting FF14 on life support maintained by junior devs. Hiroi got put in a position he is clearly not cut out for, by Yoshi P, because they need their senior devs working on the third project.
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  6. #2496
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I hope, if Yoshi ever looks at the reactions,
    All he needs to do is go through the MSQ and see it for himself.

    Preferably using the English dub.
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  7. #2497
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    Astronis Smythe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    For an expansion that was supposed to be crafted and vetted for cultural sensitivity it's an almost hilariously continuous roll of white saviour + stupid natives + Shah of Iran / CIA operations. I also notice that the underlying motif of "cultural understanding" is food, which is such an oblivious western approach to cultural appreciation "oh those funny brown people, they make a mean curry/taco". In the past of FF14 it would have been something weighty like religion or government or a system of oppression etc etc but food is "Disney-safe".
    Ironically, a tremendously Western way to look at a story written by an entirely Japanese team.
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  8. #2498
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    I for one am glad they represented my American heritage well with violent regime change and a bananatrope republic.
    All those researches weren't in vain !!! :3
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  9. #2499
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    welp thats it, i cant take it anymore, i dont have a single ounch of motivation to continue the story right now, this is the first time ever in my FF14 and usually the story is the highest reason why i play ff14 lol

    until they introduce a new stuff that can bait me to come back, i think i just unsub for now and.... i cant believe i say this but i might finally try wow for first time lol

    iam thinking FF11 but while i keep hearing the story is good and is now soloable, i dont think i can handle the cumbersome of the old style everquest era mmo
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  10. #2500
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    Ironically, a tremendously Western way to look at a story written by an entirely Japanese team.
    The outcome is still the outcome, I don't pretend to have insider knowledge on Hiroi's thought processes. They DID hire a cultural sensitivity consulting group (I have no idea who, presumably a Western one).
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