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  1. #931
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    CosmoBabylonia's Avatar
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    Vigna Ghina
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    63% is also a painfully low score on steam, combined with the fact steam stops you from making a review till you buy the game. It's really hard to review bomb the game in either a positive or negative direction on there when you have to buy at full price.
    Compare that to metacritic where people are dropping a "10/10 the story is kinda mid but I like the graphics update and the soundtrack made me cry" to try to defend the game.
    I would like to add, recently if you Google any game, Steam scores are now included so it definitely matters when making a first impression to first time buyers. Remember what made SNOY and SEGA cave for Helldivers and Warhammer III. It was the Steam scores that made them realize they made mistakes and absolutely have to fix it. Though SEGA had to go on a firing rampage at Creative Assembly to fix some of it. Hopefully no mass firing rampages at CBU III.
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    Last edited by CosmoBabylonia; 07-06-2024 at 01:16 AM.

  2. #932
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    Tethan's Avatar
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    Gale Eldingar
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoBabylonia View Post
    I would like to add, recently if you Google any game, Steam scores are now included so it definitely matters when making a first impression to first time buyers. Remember what made SNOY and SEGA cave for Helldivers and Warhammer III. It was the Steam scores that made them realize they made mistakes and absolutely have to fix it. Though SEGA had to go on a firing rampage at Creative Assembly to fix some of it. Hopefully no mass firing rampages at CBU III.
    Google also has its own scoring.

    This is.. dire...



    These are not verified but still...
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  3. #933
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    LittleArrow's Avatar
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    Little Sprinkles
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoBabylonia View Post
    I would like to add, recently if you Google any game, Steam scores are now included so it definitely matters when making a first impression to first time buyers. Remember what made SNOY and SEGA cave. It was the Steam scores that made them realize they made mistakes and absolutely have to fix it. Though SEGA had to go on a firing rampage to fix some of it. Hopefully no mass firing rampages at CBU III.
    I was stunned to see how powerful steam scores are. I don't take any of game magezine's scores seriously b/c they're all in the pockets of the studios. There are also very few game youtube channels I'll look at to see if a game is worth it. I usually always use Steam reviews though. I thought that was just me, but I was shocked when From Software nerfed their game after defending their difficulty choices for two weeks after their steam review dropped.

    I don't want anyone to get fired over the DT MSQ. It's very clear to me this is a new team of writers that lack that critical eye to detail that the previous more experienced writers had. I know there will be growing pains to bring in new fresh takes to keep the story from growing stale, but geez they did it for 10yrs without a lot of issues.

    If I had my way with suggesting how to handle that writing team it would be to rotate them through side quests / role quests first and train them up that way, which I'm sure they did.. but apparently not enough.
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  4. #934
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    ReynTime's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I was stunned to see how powerful steam scores are. I don't take any of game magezine's scores seriously b/c they're all in the pockets of the studios. There are also very few game youtube channels I'll look at to see if a game is worth it. I usually always use Steam reviews though. I thought that was just me, but I was shocked when From Software nerfed their game after defending their difficulty choices for two weeks after their steam review dropped.

    I don't want anyone to get fired over the DT MSQ. It's very clear to me this is a new team of writers that lack that critical eye to detail that the previous more experienced writers had. I know there will be growing pains to bring in new fresh takes to keep the story from growing stale, but geez they did it for 10yrs without a lot of issues.

    If I had my way with suggesting how to handle that writing team it would be to rotate them through side quests / role quests first and train them up that way, which I'm sure they did.. but apparently not enough.
    It's not a new team. They're only new to MSQ. They've written for quest chains in XIV for years.
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  5. #935
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    Maxilor's Avatar
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    Pocket Prince
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

  6. #936
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    Voidmage's Avatar
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post
    Google also has its own scoring.

    This is.. dire...



    These are not verified but still...
    The first gaming news magazines are also talking about the bad reviews.

    At this point something is starting to boil twitter is not the most important thing because that’s not we’re customers get news.
    News are big part of it all.

    I think in the end it will all depend on the content creators.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I don't want anyone to get fired over the DT MSQ..
    While I also don‘t want that someone has to take responsibility if only in the form of talking about the feedback and talking about it.
    That’s what bosses are for. I also have to stand in for the people under me at work, positiv and negativ.
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  7. #937
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    Masamune
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    Black Mage Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I was stunned to see how powerful steam scores are. I don't take any of game magezine's scores seriously b/c they're all in the pockets of the studios. There are also very few game youtube channels I'll look at to see if a game is worth it. I usually always use Steam reviews though. I thought that was just me, but I was shocked when From Software nerfed their game after defending their difficulty choices for two weeks after their steam review dropped.

    I don't want anyone to get fired over the DT MSQ. It's very clear to me this is a new team of writers that lack that critical eye to detail that the previous more experienced writers had. I know there will be growing pains to bring in new fresh takes to keep the story from growing stale, but geez they did it for 10yrs without a lot of issues.

    If I had my way with suggesting how to handle that writing team it would be to rotate them through side quests / role quests first and train them up that way, which I'm sure they did.. but apparently not enough.
    Fire the writer, he has never written anything good.
    Fire the consultants who wanted to avoid white savior, colonizer aspects and are the main reason we aren't allowed to do shit.
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  8. #938
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Rukoko Ruko
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Fire Kate while we're at it. She's obviously got her priorities wrong on what's important with the lore and localization.
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  9. #939
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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tethan View Post
    I feel like Yoshida might have mentally checked out after the conclusion of 6.0 Endwalker. He did what he set out to do, he turned the sinking ship around, saved the legacy of Final Fantasy, kept the game growing, successful and wildly profitable for over a decade. That's incredible and anyone would be tired, as a creator. That said, if he doesn't have the energy or time to spare to maintain the quality of FFXIV, then I think he should step down and let someone else take over. I know that is basically blasphemy to say, but nothing lasts forever and sometimes we have to move on, even if it's heartbreaking.
    Much as I am a member of the Church of Yoshi-P we have to acknowledge this rubbish got OK'd by their senior producers. I mean what happened there, didn't the senior people sit down and read the script/play the alphas, was there no "uhhh this isn't quite working" moment? How did this get greenlit? I have no answers.
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  10. #940
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    Melinia Newgarde
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    Zodiark
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    Bard Lv 100
    Wuk Lamat is not the issue in the story. Its ok if you dont like this happy world cat, but this story is a mental breakdown to play. It simply starts with the fact that we as playercharacter are irrelevant. We are so irrelevant as character that we need to get told how great we are. We do nothing,we tell nothing,we have nothing to share,we arent even a necessary fighting force couse we play in unicorns-dancing-on-rainbows-world, we only follow and nod with out head.

    This is just the biggest point of many i dont like. Ask me how i would descripe this Addon, my answer would be "lazy done". Dawntrail is an inexcusable humiliation in gamemaking.
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    Last edited by Silberzerox; 07-07-2024 at 07:54 PM.

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