Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[AlienDiplomat]

I am convinced dawntrail was written by AI and the devs were told to just make it work.

That was literally my first take I posted on Reddit about a week after it released. The story complexity and depth is SO far beneath all previous chapters and just lacks basic human feeling. I literally imagined it was an attempt at setting up MMO Generator GPT 9000.

[sylphlands]

I am convinced dawntrail was written by AI and the devs were told to just make it work.

I had this same thought at numerous points in the story. The scene where Wuk comes to your room all flustered and takes you to the balcony to tell you that she's decided to fight for peace, after umpteen other scenes where she told us the exact same thing, really had me scratching my head re: DT possibly being AI-written.

[Awkward]

I had this same thought at numerous points in the story. The scene where Wuk comes to your room all flustered and takes you to the balcony to tell you that she's decided to fight for peace, after umpteen other scenes where she told us the exact same thing, really had me scratching my head re: DT possibly being AI-written.

If you plug in a few random shonen protags you can pretty much create Wuk Lamat in AI, most of them are incredibly similar, Wuk Lamat even has the large appetite too and the repetitive sloganeering(PEACE AND HAPPINESS). If it's not AI the writer is as bad as one and I don't know which is worse.

[fulminating]

I really did not like the eastern section of stormblood msq, to me it felt like it was just padding and entirely in the way of the more interesting Gyr Abania section. Shinryu and Omega being very dangerous and at risk of falling into the hands of the empire should have been more than enough motive to stay nearby and resolve that. Instead we went halfway around the world just to encounter another beige zone, some impoverished pirates and a windblasted plain. The nadaam instance was pretty cool though and underwater zones are cool so the ruby sea wasn't all bad after diving was unlocked.

Despite disagreeing with which part of stormblood was cool, I still consider it a superior expansion to dawntrail in terms of story. Again I'm of the opinion that the gym badges/dawnservant stuff was an idea with potential that was fumbled and zak tural just a bit of a catastrophe.
Heritage found and living memory both felt like competing "final zones" - possibly a product of the formula™. I quite like how many of the zones can be accessed directly from the tuliyollal big aetheryte, but that also emphasises how HF and LM both feel wrong/alien/separate (maybe intentionally).

All of heritage found felt ...fillery? similar to orthard. A largely visually uninteresting zone with character that didn't particularly engage me all while the story had this conflicting sense of urgency and meandering pace. The ruins of old alexandria felt underutilised, although it could be 5 patches too early to make that judgement. I don't think it's because solution 9 was involved in the marketing so heavily, but that may have played a part too.
Living memory could have been a second floor of the city rather than a dedicated zone, the conflicting messages about how urgent it was to reach sphene really undermined the whole thing. Again comparing with stormblood, both times we're an invading force trying to reach the big boss, both times we've been sneaking about laying the groundwork for our penatrative efforts with the locals, both times the big boss is completely deranged (and also puddling about with souls what a coincidence that it happened twice), the structure, payoff and tone are presented in a more satisfying way in SB. I suspect fordola also helped narritively here, even with the urianger ex machina - the lack of known/named opposition in LM did not do it any favours in my eyes. Not that there was any set up - perhaps suspicious fishman would have worked here if zorol hadn't lethally stabbed him in the back? It'd only have been a short while for him if he'd woken up and come in through the dead baby cave door when it was reopened. As for his motive, who knows?

Broadly what I'm getting at is despite SB msq being the next most flawed, it's a struggle to think of any shared plot elements/themes DT executes in a superior fashion nor any different points that elevate DT above.

[SongOfTheWind]

I might be missing a joke or whatnot, but it’s Gosetsu, not Gogetsu

[Midare]

I might be missing a joke or whatnot, but it’s Gosetsu, not Gogetsu

I'll go an step further and correct here too.

It's not Gosetsu, it's Brosetsu.

[Fatch38]

I'll go an step further and correct here too.

It's not Gosetsu, it's Brosetsu.

you both are wrong, it's Goatetsu

[Hallarem]

you both are wrong, it's Goatetsu

Brotetsus, I too am starting to feel like Dawntrail was Wrotetsu by AI.

[Voidmage]

I don't know - I still look back very fondly on 'A Requiem for Heroes'. I really enjoyed that part of it.

To be completely fair in this case that was a patch.
Maybe 7.3 upwards the story will pick up again, at least I hope so.

Still I agree with the general opinion here that Stormblood was good looking back and the more I think about it the worse DT gets.

[MoiraTerrwell]

To be completely fair in this case that was a patch.
Maybe 7.3 upwards the story will pick up again, at least I hope so.

Still I agree with the general opinion here that Stormblood was good looking back and the more I think about it the worse DT gets.

Stormblood had issues, I barely knew Yda and I know I didn't like Lyse
(but I also didn't start in Gridania, which according to some of my friends helped knowing her and Papalymo a lot more)
And while some parts were not great, it was not as hamfisted as Dawntrail