Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Carin-Eri]

Like if you like the Expansion nothing wrong with that. If you love WuK fair enough. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise ya know. Just understand that alot of us have our criticism of the expansion and Wuk specifically.

Fair comment.

I do find Dawntrail to be paradoxical, personally.
On one hand, I did enjoy it for the most part and don't feel it was as catastrophically bad as some have expressed.
On the other hand lots of good points, some of which are irrefutable (overuse of Wuk Lamat for example), have been made regarding the flaws in the story.

All I can really say at this point is that I sincerely hope that the 7.x story direction puts our character back in the spotlight.

[Bellybell]

surprisingly there's no "Please, don't be too mean to the staffs too much" from YoshiP this time around

[gumas]

On one hand i want to believe this is just when “too much freedom in writing was given” is the reason behind it and i hope they learn from it

But on the other hand there is so many screw up with the plot, continuation and character progression its so jarring

When is the next live btw?

[Regis_Paran]

"Oh no, the city is threatened by powerful airships! Tech kitty is on the case, what can he whip up with his Sharlayan allies, a cannon perhaps like the one G'raha built for the train? Maybe he'll reverse engineer their technology from the last invasion?"

Actually he allies Radz-at-Han... ???? Good to see you again Vrtra but why are you in this story?!

Because they needed a "banger" moment and a cheap solution to the airstrike issue.

[Aniise]

surprisingly there's no "Please, don't be too mean to the staffs too much" from YoshiP this time around

No, there hasn't. But for that to happen, they would have to acknowledge that there is criticism going on at all and that hasn't happened either yet.
So I think we have to wait for the next live letter and hope they will talk about it in person, or they'll most likely just act like everything is okay and never talk about it.
Both is possible at this point. :/

[Regis_Paran]

I really want people to send Yoshi-P & team as many screens like this as possible - with a question why they bothered using WoL on all their promotional material, when they clearly had such a wonderful specimen taking WoL place for the whole damn MSQ...

[gumas]

My friend joke that there is reason estinien is not in any company and only appear here and there

If estinien in our party from the start, the whole mess will never happen in the first place

- wuk lamat kidnapped? Estinien will jump head on to bakool jaja on rescue cutscene
- zooral ja kill gulool jaja? He probably request duel to zooral in that instant

His super straight attitude and no fun allowed when it come to battle ironically can fix all this mess lol

The writer knew this hence why he got demoted so much in this expac

[CamuiKushi]

So two days ago my sub ran out and honestly Im ok with not coming back until the story is fixed even If that means loosing my medium house. I will say the raids where fun, however they where not interesting enough to keep me playing until the next patch. Not any of my friends. They have all quit the expansion before even finishing the msq. They just couldn't stand WuK or how bad the writing was.

I'm right there with you. For the first time since I started playing I've cancelled the auto-renew on my sub. Still have over 100 days left so I'll see how the patch content pans out. But the more I think about it the more 7.0 makes me feel like this isn't a game I want to play anymore.

Because they needed a "banger" moment and a cheap solution to the airstrike issue.

The moment fell SO incredibly flat for me. I was already mildly perturbed by the use of Meteion's theme of despair being used for oh-so-dramatic moments. But when "with hearts aligned" started for Vritra coming to help I suddenly realised that the devs just look at all the past music as stock music to be paraded out without a second thought.

"Ah yes, Vritra was from Endwalker, what is a hype song from Endwalker?" with no thought to the context of that song. It really shows a lack of attention to detail, which is startling coming from CSU3.

[gumas]

So two days ago my sub ran out and honestly Im ok with not coming back until the story is fixed even If that means loosing my medium house. I will say the raids where fun, however they where not interesting enough to keep me playing until the next patch. Not any of my friends. They have all quit the expansion before even finishing the msq. They just couldn't stand WuK or how bad the writing was.

The dissapointment of DT made sub wow for a month lol

Iam thinking to sub FF11 when my wow sub run out

[ArcturusWhisper]

It's even dumber than that, because there's that cutscene between her and Zoraal Ja(where *only the two of them are present* so she's not trying to deceive us) and she pleads with him to find some way to make peace with us, that with our knowledge we could explore new possibilities to preserve her people. Then as soon as he's out of the picture she forgets about that possibility entirely and goes all in with the "steal their souls" plan. I'm sure if she'd bothered to ask to work with us it would've taken little more than a quick trip to Ultima Thule to consult the Omicron to at least have a really good starting point. We could've helped with the Levin sickness thing for her still-living subjects too, we've dealt with aetheric imbalances like that on multiple occasions by this point and NOBODY brought it up.

And that doesn't even get into how dumb it is for her to be *actively projecting* some of her people's memories in Living Memory while there's a power shortage. Just keep them in the terminals until you can find a solution, Sphene. Save power.

We are hinted multiple times with "they know so much more than I do" and then it never go anywhere. Sphene just reverts back to whatever she's doing. This expansion has so many dropped plot threads that I think who mentioned poor playtesting is probably on to something. There're just so many hooks that go nowhere?

Completely out of place too btw. A bunch of people just got murdered, there's a war on our hands, the main engineer is sending off his wife with us, unsure she'll come back. We're building a suicide bomber train to storm a hostile base. We might not survive the train ride there, we might not survive the explosion part, we might not get into the base or get past the bubble, etc. Our failure might lead to this whole nation getting destroyed, and later to more of the world getting destroyed.

Cue the ridiculous happy Disney music.

They seem to be trying to ape the elevator scene in Shadowbringer, completely disregarding the different scenario. Cargo cult of Shadowbringers, literally.