Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[fulminating]

... as an aside, I find it weird/funny that the whole quest about those tacos that supposedly served to bring two peoples together was entirely disingenuous... was that intended by the writers? I don't know if it was supposed to be?
It wasn't the tacos that stopped the Mamool Ja and Hrothgar from fighting; it was literally Galool Ja Ja fearmongering both sides that another smarter, more technologically savvy people from across the sea could come over and destroy/conquer them utterly that scared them into allying together and ceasing hostilities. The tacos were just the food they had afterwards. Let's not pretend that the fear of a third enemy wasn't the real thing to bring them together.

I think getting to one man army the pair of them would have made for a fairly fun combat instance. More so than baby’s first warrior - I also thought dynamis explicitly sucked on hydaelyn, I don’t really understand how she got so many buffs there. Or we could have used memories of zenos/solus with our own magic porridge pot to show the first promise just how much of a normal fish in a small pond he really is. Maybe having that as the event to tip him over the edge rather than whatever was really going on in his head, have him going off the deep end in alexandria be directly traceable to the player removing the scales from his eyes. Or add Zenos as a new guy in the crowded room at is the wol’s head, he’d get right along with frey and maybe ardbert and middy, probably not mist though.

Presumably the implication is meant to be that zararl ja believes he is truly stronger than the garleans - iirc there's some dialogue that flat out states it. Having him get flattened by the prime garool jaja who in turn is effortlessly defeated might have made his power by any means arc less absurd, even if the grumpy mamool ja guy doesn't allow it as passing the trial. Just a bit more groundwork, so there's dramatic irony with the player knowing their character's actions are only creating a big problem there - the Commisioner Dreyfus to the wol's Clouseau.

edit: it's also really weird we never got to ask about the circumstances of zarlal ja's birth; we've seen plenty of blue hobos before both just before amon in circus tower and in eureka orthos around the 61-70 set. Is he an allagan chimera with the associated mental instabilities? Is it a convergent creation? Surely it's pretty reckless to not mention it to at least gajool jaja.

[Rueby]

I managed to bring myself to do more MSQ yesterday and uh...I'm not sure if something is ~lost in translation~ but this came off as really rude? Also, this also confirms that all there is to her is 'I'm hungry'....Which honestly is awful.



Who speaks to and about their father like that (even adopted). Does she consider the head of resolve/reason to be separate entities? Or something? Or is 'being a ruler' 'going for the throne' actually getting to her head...?

She didn't come in worried about her father's wellbeing- or ours, but simply....she couldn't get to finish 'eating' because her 'father' is acting up. I'd expect this maybe from the man's really old disgruntled wife who is tired of his shit but is maybe concerned for his 'health' or something not from his daughter.

This is wild because I was starting to kinda settle into 'ehhh it's manageable I can somewhat tolerate it' then she actually went ahead and full on ruined it- as she usually does.
Prior to this she was moaning about how she's 'selfish' for wrangling the goldsmith to her cause, and honestly? I think she should. I guess the writing wanted me to go like 'aww no don't say that' but it truly is backfiring..

I don't know, I kinda fell asleep again later after Koana started malding hard at his sister being kidnapped while I'm standing here like 'I feel bad but also glad I could breathe'.

Also, Wuk Evu is a horrible character, existing to exposition dump nothing more...

Hanu tradition? Wuk Evu knows it all.
Golden City? Wuk Evu knows it all.
I wonder what's next?

At this rate I feel like I'm going to slip into a coma by the end of the MSQ. I can't even think or be excited about the golden city because it's all about Wuk Lamat, if I could rewind time, I'd pluck Emet out of the aetherial sea and ask him what the hell?

[Coratanni]

I managed to bring myself to do more MSQ yesterday and uh...I'm not sure if something is ~lost in translation~ but this came off as really rude? Also, this also confirms that all there is to her is 'I'm hungry'....Which honestly is awful.



Who speaks to and about their father like that (even adopted). Does she consider the head of resolve/reason to be separate entities? Or something? Or is 'being a ruler' 'going for the throne' actually getting to her head...?

She didn't come in worried about her father's wellbeing- or ours, but simply....she couldn't get to finish 'eating' because her 'father' is acting up. I'd expect this maybe from the man's really old disgruntled wife who is tired of his shit but is maybe concerned for his 'health' or something not from his daughter.

This is wild because I was starting to kinda settle into 'ehhh it's manageable I can somewhat tolerate it' then she actually went ahead and full on ruined it- as she usually does.
Prior to this she was moaning about how she's 'selfish' for wrangling the goldsmith to her cause, and honestly? I think she should. I guess the writing wanted me to go like 'aww no don't say that' but it truly is backfiring..

I don't know, I kinda fell asleep again later after Koana started malding hard at his sister being kidnapped while I'm standing here like 'I feel bad but also glad I could breathe'.

Also, Wuk Evu is a horrible character, existing to exposition dump nothing more...

Hanu tradition? Wuk Evu knows it all.
Golden City? Wuk Evu knows it all.
I wonder what's next?

At this rate I feel like I'm going to slip into a coma by the end of the MSQ. I can't even think or be excited about the golden city because it's all about Wuk Lamat, if I could rewind time, I'd pluck Emet out of the aetherial sea and ask him what the hell?

I was PISSED when she interrupted our talks with the Dawnservant after our duel. You're not the only one who noticed that. A spoiled, princess of a brat acts like that to their parents. I was ready to just log off for the night after that scene.

[MoiraTerrwell]

if I could rewind time, I'd pluck Emet out of the aetherial sea and ask him what the hell?

If I could rewind time I'd literally let myself just lose and him win, because surely our life as the most powerful Sin Eater Ever is more glorious than dealing with Wuk Lamat.

[lolnotacat]

If I could rewind time I'd literally let myself just lose and him win, because surely our life as the most powerful Sin Eater Ever is more glorious than dealing with Wuk Lamat.

“If you had the strength to take another step, could you do it? Could you save our worlds?”

Standing is the band end, bro. Trust me.

[DiscoDuck]

When I do drag my alt through this Mary Sue fanfic slogfest this will be what echoes in her head whenever the little spoiled mary sue princess shows up. Where I'm at on my main I been feeling this for a long time... (I'm Arby and my bf is Chief)

[EchoingPulse]

When I do drag my alt through this Mary Sue fanfic slogfest this will be what echoes in her head whenever the little spoiled mary sue princess shows up. Where I'm at on my main I been feeling this for a long time... (I'm Arby and my bf is Chief)

I've dragged two alts through the MSQ with full-on skips, and it was still a slog. I have three more to go. I wish we had a Story Skip for Dawntrail.

Yes, I wouldn't say I like the MSQ that much. I would much rather play through all of a Realm Reborn again.

[sharplysurreal]

I've dragged two alts through the MSQ with full-on skips, and it was still a slog. I have three more to go. I wish we had a Story Skip for Dawntrail.

Yes, I wouldn't say I like the MSQ that much. I would much rather play through all of a Realm Reborn again.

tbh this is exactly what i did. I started a new gladiator in ul'dah and just did the quest where you meet Thancred for the first time where you protect Nanamo from a voidsent and make contact with Hydaelyn an I am infinitely more thrilled and invested than I have been in years.

[EchoingPulse]

tbh this is exactly what i did. I started a new gladiator in ul'dah and just did the quest where you meet Thancred for the first time where you protect Nanamo from a voidsent and make contact with Hydaelyn an I am infinitely more thrilled and invested than I have been in years.

What digs at me with Dawntrail are the FORCED sections where you CANNOT SKIP and have to ESCORT NPCs to X place. Like WHY!? WHY!?. This always ensures the maximum amount of time is taken no matter how fast you Skip and Click.

[Papayatar]

I managed to bring myself to do more MSQ yesterday and uh...I'm not sure if something is ~lost in translation~ but this came off as really rude? Also, this also confirms that all there is to her is 'I'm hungry'....Which honestly is awful.



Who speaks to and about their father like that (even adopted). Does she consider the head of resolve/reason to be separate entities? Or something? Or is 'being a ruler' 'going for the throne' actually getting to her head...?

She didn't come in worried about her father's wellbeing- or ours, but simply....she couldn't get to finish 'eating' because her 'father' is acting up. I'd expect this maybe from the man's really old disgruntled wife who is tired of his shit but is maybe concerned for his 'health' or something not from his daughter.

This is wild because I was starting to kinda settle into 'ehhh it's manageable I can somewhat tolerate it' then she actually went ahead and full on ruined it- as she usually does.
Prior to this she was moaning about how she's 'selfish' for wrangling the goldsmith to her cause, and honestly? I think she should. I guess the writing wanted me to go like 'aww no don't say that' but it truly is backfiring..

It kinda makes me think of the character you see in anime/manga who’s hot-headed or boisterous and talks back to their parents/guardians, to compare our Orange cat to another Orange cat, kinda like Kyo from Fruits Basket. Or maybe like Tomo from Tomo-chan is a girl. Especially since I think in Japanese Wuk has more tomboyish way of speaking(I think?).

But it attempting to showcase that side of her at that moment, or really just her showing up there was just weird AF. For me I was like, well damn if you’re so hungry why did you even bust in here to chastise your dad? When we popped in on dad vs Estinien it was established he just be fighting people sometimes. She should have 1000% expected it, eaten her dinner, and come harass us about it at the Inn later.

Also it’s off because there’s no banter with it. Usually that kind of thing is played off with other characters but (if my memory is correct) Lizard dad just kinda rolls with it and is like, anyway WoL keep looking out for her.

It really felt like a, you haven’t seen Wuk Lamat in 2 min time to suddenly inject her in the story just in case your memory is on par with a goldfish.