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  1. #1961
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Yeah. For as much as I don’t like Wuk Lamat and the pacing issues…
    The treatment of my WoL was the worst for me.
    I think the last time I was that furious at a writing butchering a character was Metroid other M.

    The whole time the WoL seemed like an obstacle or thorn in the writers side. One they had to include because it was an MMO but actually hated because it stood in the way of their FFXIV-2 story with MC Wuk Lamat.

    It was such a disregard for that character I really cannot understand how one can be ok with that „mentor role“ or not.

    Yoshida himself said once that the story moves when the WoL moves and now it’s just disregarded completely.
    Who did they think they’d make happy with that?
    Did they really think everyone would universally love Wuk Lamat and be ok with having their character benched?
    How out of touch have they gotten at some points?

    I understand having them take a step back or being more in the background but they still NEED to be the central focus for US the player.
    We don‘t experience the story through Wuk Lamat but them.

    Man I‘m already getting angry again. I really hope there is a long, long meeting at square right now.
    Yoshi-P forgot his own philosophy for some reason.

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  2. #1962
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    Quote Originally Posted by fioravictorine View Post
    Ok I'm curious, so what does he say?

    'Good job llamatea' ?
    Okay you know what really grinds my gears?
    Five expansions, with G'raha and Y'shtola...still no diagetic clan letter dropping. No dialog option to say "Raha" or "Shtola" - though we have been to the end of reality together.
    One expansion with Wuk Lamat....already allowed tocall her Lamaty.
    Where is the justice??????
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  3. #1963
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamJam View Post
    Yoshi-P forgot his own philosophy for some reason.

    This is so sad to see. I've been remembering things YoshiP said in the past and it seems like it was all thrown away. Remember the GDC "Behind the Realm Reborn" presentation?
    All of CBU3 should watch that again.



    Also, YoshiP always used to talk about how he wanted to keep the trust of 1.0 players that liked the game and not allienate or abandon them, and yet Dawntrail reads like it's written to a very different audience all of a sudden.

    I hope they also didn't forget this part:

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  4. #1964
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    Dislike Wuk Lamat more than Stormblood Lyse and didn't think that would be possible. She demands so much attention and it really takes away from every other character in the expansion to the point where the Dawntrail story is centered around Wuk Lamat.

    Hopefully she fades into obscurity going forward. No one I've spoken with wants anything to do with her anymore.
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  6. #1965
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhrimVenom View Post
    Couldn't disagree more. Don't think she is the most amazing character in the world, but there is nothing bad about her character, the writing or the voice acting. People just want to hate without any real justified reason.
    This is some serious low effort bait right here. Not even dollar store worth.
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  7. #1966
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    Asking for playable female Hrothgars feels like a massive monkey's paw situation now. ='D
    It felt from the start to me. Their heads are still shaped like a human girl's, just with the (too short) muzzle and ears plugged in. They really didn't try to go all out with the beast race thing like with Hrothgar heads.
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  8. #1967
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    Quote Originally Posted by Losara View Post
    Dislike Wuk Lamat more than Stormblood Lyse and didn't think that would be possible. She demands so much attention and it really takes away from every other character in the expansion to the point where the Dawntrail story is centered around Wuk Lamat.

    Hopefully she fades into obscurity going forward. No one I've spoken with wants anything to do with her anymore.
    It's not difficult to see how Lyse would be considered better. Lyse may not be to a lot of people's liking, but at least she acts like a real person. Wuk Lamat acts like an idealized hero that would never exist.
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  9. #1968
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    It's not difficult to see how Lyse would be considered better. Lyse may not be to a lot of people's liking, but at least she acts like a real person. Wuk Lamat acts like an idealized hero that would never exist.
    If the WOL wasnt resistant to primal influence, I would have said that they were a Primal since everyone around them seems brainwashed.
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  10. #1969
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    2. Naruto wanted to become Hokage so people would respect him, because he was desperate for love since he's never shown it.
    Yea and the moment he become Hokage he dedicate all his time to keep the peace he worked for up. Minato also wanted a peacefull world. That similar to Wuk and her father, not the same exact thing of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    3. The local population doesn't hate Wuk Lamat
    Hence why I added the /cringe right after hate. The vast majority of people don't support her and react the same way people react to Naruto when he just go around and scream he will become Hokage.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    4. Naruto is hated by everyone
    False, Kakashi don't ever hate him, Jiraya don't ever hate him. Shikamaru just consider him anoying rather than hating him (and that ignoring those filler where they just retcon it and decide they were friends all along as kid). And that like the 3 first that come to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    5. Naruto doesn't become friends with everyone for no reason
    I shouldn't have used the words ''no reason'' here. It more like it take low effort on his part to switch people mind about it when the plot demands it. Like you said, he just talk no jutsu people out of doing warcrime.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Don't relate Naruto to Wuk Lmao
    They are the same character trope
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Hah, you wish.

    It's:

    I will give my life to llamatea
    I... I don't *doubt* you. But I want to doubt you. Good god, please screenshot this if you can.
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